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Old Fri Jan 06, 2017, 09:39am
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The catch and horn were almost simultaneous. They put 1.9 back on and replayed.
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Old Fri Jan 06, 2017, 09:45am
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The catch and horn were almost simultaneous. They put 1.9 back on and replayed.
This was almost definitely the correct way to resolve it.
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Old Sun Jan 08, 2017, 11:53pm
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Coach here. Had this happen once, not the 4th quarter. 2.4 on the clock, have the ball near the division line. Have my big guy on the block. Inbounder throws to my big guy who catches and shoots a little fadaway and releases just after the buzzer sounds. Time between catch and release was probably around one second. Officials convene and after some discussion decide that it was a timing error and we retry from 2.4. Needless to say we didn't get as good of a shot off on the redo.
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2017, 12:10am
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This is why a redo is not the answer. Part C says if throw in is over go to spot of first touch and take some time off the clock. I would take off 3/10ths and in bound from end line closest to where the ball was first touched. You lost your element of surprise. Why should you be penalized for a timing mistake.
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2017, 01:09am
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This is why a redo is not the answer. Part C says if throw in is over go to spot of first touch and take some time off the clock. I would take off 3/10ths and in bound from end line closest to where the ball was first touched. You lost your element of surprise. Why should you be penalized for a timing mistake.
Why would you take 3/10ths off when the poster states that the time from catch to release and the horn sounding was about one second?
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2017, 01:12am
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Because the only definite knowledge I have is that it takes 3/10ths of a second to catch the ball. Any more or less I would be guessing as the clock was not correct anyway.
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2017, 01:17am
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it takes 3/10ths of a second to catch the ball
Do you have a source for this?
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2017, 10:17am
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Saw this tonight.

Team A inbounding ball on endline in backcourt, 1.9 seconds left, needing to go length of court. Run a play, and makes a long pass to A1 at 3 point line in frontcourt. As A1 catches the ball, the horn sounds. Clock was started early. Clock was started as the pass was in the air. What do you do?
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The catch and horn were almost simultaneous. They put 1.9 back on and replayed.
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Why would you take 3/10ths off when the poster states that the time from catch to release and the horn sounding was about one second?
No I didn't.
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2017, 05:29pm
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No I didn't.
Not talking about your play. I wrote poster, not OP.
Below is the post immediately above Ed's response.

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Coach here. Had this happen once, not the 4th quarter. 2.4 on the clock, have the ball near the division line. Have my big guy on the block. Inbounder throws to my big guy who catches and shoots a little fadaway and releases just after the buzzer sounds. [B]Time between catch and release was probably around one second.[\B]. Officials convene and after some discussion decide that it was a timing error and we retry from 2.4. Needless to say we didn't get as good of a shot off on the redo.
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Old Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:21am
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All of this just goes to show over and over again that the table personnel clock operators never pay attention to our "chop the clock" signals. They just go by what they think is the 'common sense' way to do things. I've had clock operators start the clock when the ball is in-bounded by rolling it on the floor by A1 and A2 had yet to start a dribble--ball just rolling from the backcourt to frontcourt---and she started the clock. I had words with her and we put back all the time on the clock, it was embarrassing for her though, close game.
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Old Tue Jan 10, 2017, 10:02am
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All of this just goes to show over and over again that the table personnel clock operators never pay attention to our "chop the clock" signals. They just go by what they think is the 'common sense' way to do things. I've had clock operators start the clock when the ball is in-bounded by rolling it on the floor by A1 and A2 had yet to start a dribble--ball just rolling from the backcourt to frontcourt---and she started the clock. I had words with her and we put back all the time on the clock, it was embarrassing for her though, close game.
A 40 point blowout recently and a ball hits the floor inbounds and bounces towards OOB......tick tick tick....and I'm waiting for the horn to blow before putting a whistle on the OOB....and the clock operator helpfully stops the clock with 0.3 seconds left without a whistle.
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Old Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:06pm
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Not talking about your play. I wrote poster, not OP.
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OOPS. My bad
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