Intentional Foul?

[Adam]

I personally subscribe to Bob's criteria. If it's something that would trigger me to call an intentional foul during live ball, I'll call the T. If it's something that would have been a common foul during live play, I'll probably have a chat about what the whistle means.

Added note: BNR, in your play, I've probably got nothing. It depends on just how long after the whistle the swipe happened. The longer the ball has been dead, the lower my threshold for calling a foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

I personally subscribe to Bob's criteria. If it's something that would trigger me to call an intentional foul during live ball, I'll call the T. If it's something that would have been a common foul during live play, I'll probably have a chat about what the whistle means.

Added note: BNR, in your play, I've probably got nothing. It depends on just how long after the whistle the swipe happened. The longer the ball has been dead, the lower my threshold for calling a foul.

And I purposely did not put any time lapse references in my situation. It is not uncommon at all for an opponent to swipe at the ball well after the play is whistled dead. My decision will have less to do with elapsed seconds, and more to do with the temperature of the rivalry or game. I don't like the blanket statement that what is "intentional" during a live-ball is the same criteria as what is "intentional" during a dead ball, especially in some the games I have to officiate.

[Multiple Sports]

BNR - You are so much wiser after this past weekend !!!!! You were obviously paying attention !!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

And I purposely did not put any time lapse references in my situation. It is not uncommon at all for an opponent to swipe at the ball well after the play is whistled dead. My decision will have less to do with elapsed seconds, and more to do with the temperature of the rivalry or game. I don't like the blanket statement that what is "intentional" during a live-ball is the same criteria as what is "intentional" during a dead ball, especially in some the games I have to officiate.

I agree, blanket statements are bad.

I think the standard works in most situations, but consideration must be made for game temperature.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't like the blanket statement that what is "intentional" during a live-ball is the same criteria as what is "intentional" during a dead ball, especially in some the games I have to officiate.

I do think it is safe to say (and probably what you're thinking) that anything that is intentional during a live ball would also be at least intentional during a dead ball. However, some things that would be less than intentional during a live ball might rise to that level if during a dead ball.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I do think it is safe to say (and probably what you're thinking) that anything that is intentional during a live ball would also be at least intentional during a dead ball. However, some things that would be less than intentional during a dead ball might rise to that level if during a dead ball.

You are correct.