Hanging on the rim

[packersowner]

I'm in the camp that holding on the rim for safety is an overused excuse. In play 1, if A flushes the dunk and momentum keeps him moving, there is no safety issue. When I see legs go swinging to me that's going to get called more times than not.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by packersowner

I'm in the camp that holding on the rim for safety is an overused excuse.....

Excuse = person explaining himself for his actions.

We go by judgment. WE judge whether or not the player did it for safety reasons.

This isn't about proving a point about something we don't personally like. It's about adjudicating the rules with our best, unbiased judgment. Supervisors don't want officials actively looking to make "I gotcha" calls.

[packersowner]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Excuse = person explaining himself for his actions.

We go by judgment. WE judge whether or not the player did it for safety reasons.

This isn't about proving a point about something we don't personally like. It's about adjudicating the rules with our best, unbiased judgment.

Not really, safety is the exception to the rule. Grasping the rim is a technical. My point is, the classic line from every coach regardless of what you call is going to be safety.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Supervisors don't want officials actively looking to make "I gotcha" calls.

I don't disagree and I am not going to die on this hill most days, but the opposing coach in the video, also thought it should have been called. We all have our threshold for what is unsportsmanlike and what is done for safety reasons. My point is that whenever these plays are shown, the first thing everyone goes to is safety and I think its too easy to make that excuse. I'm never going to have a problem defending either call with a supervisor, but if a supervisor looks at a tape afterwards and there isn't a safety concern, then thats on me and the opposing coach has just as much right to be upset.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by packersowner

... My point is that whenever these plays are shown, the first thing everyone goes to is safety and I think its too easy to make that excuse. I'm never going to have a problem defending either call with a supervisor, but if a supervisor looks at a tape afterwards and there isn't a safety concern, then thats on me and the opposing coach has just as much right to be upset.

My supervisors will be more upset with me for calling one that is borderline than for missing one that was there.