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AremRed Wed Oct 19, 2016 02:52pm

Hanging on the rim
 
Thought I would post a couple plays that involve grabbing/hanging on the rim. There is a lot more above the rim play in our games and we need to be ready to officiate these plays.

Play 1: https://streamable.com/spzh

Play 2: https://streamable.com/z4by

Play 3: https://streamable.com/k9at

ODog Wed Oct 19, 2016 04:01pm

Great videos!

1.) Nothing. Kid had some serious momentum downcourt, so I saw his rim-hang as a safety precaution more or less.
2.) Technical ... if he actually hung on the rim. Tough to be sure on video from 100 feet away, but it definitely looked like he did.
3.) Nothing. Kid was hopeful for a tip jam, and when that opportunity passed, I'd also pass and say he was just protecting himself/others with the rim-hang.

todd66 Wed Oct 19, 2016 04:32pm

1. Tech. looks like he pulls himself up, IMO.
2. Nothing. Looks like brief touch from the angle we have.
3. Nothing. Safety issue.

JRutledge Wed Oct 19, 2016 06:04pm

1. I likely have a T, but it is hard to tell how close the player is under him. That would make the difference for me.

2. I do not see a grab, I see a touch and that would make a difference. Too far away to know for sure.

3. No T, he grabs the rim while someone is under him.

Peace

Jay R Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:08pm

In 2nd example, he grabs rim to help secure rebound. That is something.

johnny d Thu Oct 20, 2016 05:55pm

Play 1, technical. He was fine until he added the pull up.

Play 2, nothing.

Play 3, technical. There was a player underneath him, but there isn't any reason for him to be on the rim in the first place. The opportunity to get the rebound has long past.

BigCat Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 992168)

Play 3, technical. There was a player underneath him, but there isn't any reason for him to be on the rim in the first place. The opportunity to get the rebound has long past.

I agree with you that he doesn't need to be going at the rim this way and doesn't have a chance at the ball. But, because that player is under him, i don't call the T here. I think if safety is an issue he can grab it. i don't see the rule letting me consider how dumb he was getting himself into that position.

Pantherdreams Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:48pm

1. Nothing. He comes down when he has his body under control and it is clear.

2. Nothing from that vantage point. all though I would like a better look at it. Hard to tell if he is protecting himself or avoiding the rim or gaining some sort of unintended advantage.

3. Nothing. He's airborne he's going to come across someone's back and is using the rim to protect himself and the other kid. Move on.

VaTerp Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:14am

1) This one is close with the little extra hang and pull once he only has one hand on the rim. I probably pass on the T but say something to #23 and/or his coach as a reminder.

2) T. He gains an advantage in securing the rebound by grabbing the rim. Hard to see in transition and it was quick but would have been a great get by the C or T.

3) Nothing. He mistimed his attempt on the rebound but would err on the side of safety in not penalizing.

Blindolbat Mon Oct 31, 2016 01:32pm

Play 1: Technical - seems like we've talked about this one before and I'm in technical camp

Play 2: Technical - I see the rim being pulled down.

Play 3: Probably don't have a technical, but I'd more than likely have a foul. He landed on the kids head which directly impacted his ability to get a rebound and/or defend the other player

Blindolbat Mon Oct 31, 2016 01:40pm

Play 1: Technical - seems like we've talked about this one before and I'm in technical camp

Play 2: Technical - I see the rim being pulled down.

Play 3: Probably don't have a technical, but I'd more than likely have a foul. He landed on the kids head which directly impacted his ability to get a rebound and/or defend the other player

IncorrectCall Wed Nov 02, 2016 01:15pm

Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

Maineac Wed Nov 02, 2016 01:44pm

Won't be a popular answer, but I'd get all three at the high school level.

walt Fri Nov 04, 2016 03:25pm

1. Technical. To me he's good until the pull up.

2. Nothing

3. Nothing

BigCat Fri Nov 04, 2016 04:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blindolbat (Post 992605)

Play 3: Probably don't have a technical, but I'd more than likely have a foul. He landed on the kids head which directly impacted his ability to get a rebound and/or defend the other player

Have a patient whistle. The ball went in (if I remember) and nobody got hit etc. I'd pass on everything.


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