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Old Wed Oct 19, 2016, 02:52pm
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Hanging on the rim

Thought I would post a couple plays that involve grabbing/hanging on the rim. There is a lot more above the rim play in our games and we need to be ready to officiate these plays.

Play 1: https://streamable.com/spzh

Play 2: https://streamable.com/z4by

Play 3: https://streamable.com/k9at
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Old Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:01pm
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Great videos!

1.) Nothing. Kid had some serious momentum downcourt, so I saw his rim-hang as a safety precaution more or less.
2.) Technical ... if he actually hung on the rim. Tough to be sure on video from 100 feet away, but it definitely looked like he did.
3.) Nothing. Kid was hopeful for a tip jam, and when that opportunity passed, I'd also pass and say he was just protecting himself/others with the rim-hang.
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Old Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:32pm
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1. Tech. looks like he pulls himself up, IMO.
2. Nothing. Looks like brief touch from the angle we have.
3. Nothing. Safety issue.
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Old Wed Oct 19, 2016, 06:04pm
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1. I likely have a T, but it is hard to tell how close the player is under him. That would make the difference for me.

2. I do not see a grab, I see a touch and that would make a difference. Too far away to know for sure.

3. No T, he grabs the rim while someone is under him.

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Old Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:08pm
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In 2nd example, he grabs rim to help secure rebound. That is something.
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Old Thu Oct 20, 2016, 05:55pm
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Play 1, technical. He was fine until he added the pull up.

Play 2, nothing.

Play 3, technical. There was a player underneath him, but there isn't any reason for him to be on the rim in the first place. The opportunity to get the rebound has long past.
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Old Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:32pm
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Play 1: Technical - seems like we've talked about this one before and I'm in technical camp

Play 2: Technical - I see the rim being pulled down.

Play 3: Probably don't have a technical, but I'd more than likely have a foul. He landed on the kids head which directly impacted his ability to get a rebound and/or defend the other player
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Old Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:40pm
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Play 1: Technical - seems like we've talked about this one before and I'm in technical camp

Play 2: Technical - I see the rim being pulled down.

Play 3: Probably don't have a technical, but I'd more than likely have a foul. He landed on the kids head which directly impacted his ability to get a rebound and/or defend the other player
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2016, 01:15pm
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Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2016, 01:44pm
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Won't be a popular answer, but I'd get all three at the high school level.
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Old Fri Nov 04, 2016, 03:25pm
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1. Technical. To me he's good until the pull up.

2. Nothing

3. Nothing
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Old Fri Nov 04, 2016, 04:54pm
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Play 3: Probably don't have a technical, but I'd more than likely have a foul. He landed on the kids head which directly impacted his ability to get a rebound and/or defend the other player
Have a patient whistle. The ball went in (if I remember) and nobody got hit etc. I'd pass on everything.
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Old Mon Nov 07, 2016, 02:02pm
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Ball went in but that was after the defender got landed on. He had no chance to get the board (would have been tough anyways) and then zero chance to defend the putback. I think you have to get the foul here.
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Old Mon Nov 07, 2016, 03:12pm
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Ball went in but that was after the defender got landed on. He had no chance to get the board (would have been tough anyways) and then zero chance to defend the putback. I think you have to get the foul here.
I looked at it again and the ball didn't go in. You and blindoblat are correct. No T but the defender wasn't able to defend after the rebound. Foul on offense. Good calls by you both.
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Old Tue Nov 08, 2016, 01:26pm
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Great videos to start thinking about for the upcoming season. I had nothing on all 3 initially, but after reviewing the comments, I agree that the 3rd should be a foul.

1) I'd let this go. Any pull up appeared to be him slowing his momentum and checking to see where the defender was before dropping to the ground. There didn't seem to be any intent to show up the opponent here so unless there had been something previously, I'm not jumping in on that.

2) It's a long way away, but I tend to give players the benefit of the doubt on safety. Even if he did grasp the ring, I think it was more protecting himself from hitting the rim after the pass got deflected vs gaining an advantage on the rebound.

3) Grabs the basket to prevent injury. Agree after watching the video that it should have been a foul. I'm going team control foul too. It looks like the contact occurred right after his teammate got the rebound but before the shot. No basket.
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