Free throw misses rim, violation, mechanics?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Dad

I have zero problems with this. Everyone in the gym knows what it means, and the only issue I've run across, which really isn't one, is that random official bitching that it isn't a mechanic.

While I don't do it, I'd rather that instead of someone blowing their whistle and whisper violation. Then the entire gym is wondering what was called and the crew looks bad.

In my experience, the entire gym is announcing it for us.

[BigCat]

I would raise open hand. Point at rim and yell, "violation,ball did not hit rim. Blue ball, point direction. Then spot throwin there" while pointing to spot. (If it is close to hitting rim.) if complete and total air ball raise open hand,point direction and then spot of the throw in.

I do twirl on basket interference every now and then. Nothing else.

[Camron Rust]

Perhaps we should come running in with multiple tweets, pumping our raised arm 3-4 times to make sure people know we've got the call.

Or perhaps we shouldn't.

[DrPete]

And the Lead official does NOT make this call. In two man, it should be whistled by the trail, and in a three man crew, center has this call.

[Texas Aggie]

Everyone in the gym knows what it means

Everyone in the gym knows what the signal for delay of game in football is. Should we use that too? Also, that isn't the signal for missing the rim. It is, or used to be, the signal for resetting the shot clock.

If the people missed that the ball didn't hit the rim (or might not have hit it) and have no idea what you're calling, they aren't paying enough attention to matter. Use the correct mechanic -- arm raised with open hand and whistle, point in the direction of the non-offending team's basket, point to a spot for the throw in, and then move to your next position. Verbalize if you want to, but I don't think it is necessary.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Perhaps we should come running in with multiple tweets, pumping our raised arm 3-4 times to make sure people know we've got the call.

Joey, is that you?

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Adam

In my experience, the entire gym is announcing it for us.

During the season, sure. For now, there's some fan who will start booing and say it hit the backboard. Then all the fans decide since said fan through a fit they had better find a play to throw a fit about. Then I have to become a magician and make a magical call that shuts them all up. Entirely way to much effort when I can just ignore my partners making their swirlies.

[Kansas Ref]

How/why has the "finger swirlie" persisted for such a long time ?

[bballref3966]

I've used the finger swirlie for basket interference before, even though it's unapproved. Not saying I should, just saying I have.

I've never used it to indicate a free throw missed the ring.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

How/why has the "finger swirlie" persisted for such a long time ?

Because to some ways of thinking, every violation needs a signal.

It's much like how hooking, tripping, hit to the head etc. were not in the NCAA book but were still used -- despite the admonition to "use only approved signals."

Then, one year they were added with the explanation "Information and aids communication and some officials have been using them and they are good." -- Well, if officials weren't using the "unapproved" signals, we never would have known how good they were.

[Kansas Ref]

Well-stated, thanks BJ.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Because to some ways of thinking, every violation needs a signal.

It's much like how hooking, tripping, hit to the head etc. were not in the NCAA book but were still used -- despite the admonition to "use only approved signals."

Then, one year they were added with the explanation "Information and aids communication and some officials have been using them and they are good." -- Well, if officials weren't using the "unapproved" signals, we never would have known how good they were.

This year, at least 3 signals on the men's side were added that fit what you're saying

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by APG

This year, at least 3 signals on the men's side were added that fit what you're saying

Except for the cylinder/vertically foul. That signal comes from Australian Rules Football.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by APG

This year, at least 3 signals on the men's side were added that fit what you're saying

I love this. To me, if an unapproved signal improves communication with a coach, I'm all for it. Perhaps a high school table won't understand it, but I really don't care because all I need to make sure they know is color and number.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Except for the cylinder/vertically foul. That signal comes from Australian Rules Football.

It's only a matter of time!




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