Spin move. You make the call.... (Video)

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'd prefer to not view them ever in slow motion over that.

You aren't alone...and I'm not sure I'm not with you. Though I do wish the rule reflected how the game is actually officiated...and expected to be officiated.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

You aren't alone...and I'm not sure I'm not with you. Though I do wish the rule reflected how the game is actually officiated...and expected to be officiated.

Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner. If there is a different standard that is expected to be applied, change the rule to fit. Don't write it one way, expect it to be called a different way (not called), and criticize those who call it the way it is defined.

[Blindolbat]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner. If there is a different standard that is expected to be applied, change the rule to fit. Don't write it one way, expect it to be called a different way (not called), and criticize those who call it the way it is defined.

I couldn't have said it better my self.

Not a travel anymore.

[just another ref]

One thing that has evolved is the argument here. There's less "He may not have completed the gather" and more "That's never called." So the question remains, if I correctly call a travel which you can't see without slow motion, or even worse in my opinion, you simply refuse to call because some other official didn't /wouldn't, does that make me a bad official?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

One thing that has evolved is the argument here. There's less "He may not have completed the gather" and more "That's never called." So the question remains, if I correctly call a travel which you can't see without slow motion, or even worse in my opinion, you simply refuse to call because some other official didn't /wouldn't, does that make me a bad official?

The "he may not have completed the gather" was never a good argument because, rules wise, there is no such thing as a gather. By rule, the dribble ends and the holding of the ball begins when the ball comes to rest in one or both hands. Being in two hands certainly makes it clear but it isn't a requirement and never has been.

Then, to expect defenders to maintain LGP on a player who is allowed to move in excess of the defined rules unfairly tips the balance in a way that was never intended.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

One thing that has evolved is the argument here. There's less "He may not have completed the gather" and more "That's never called." So the question remains, if I correctly call a travel which you can't see without slow motion, or even worse in my opinion, you simply refuse to call because some other official didn't /wouldn't, does that make me a bad official?

Do you call that travel?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Do you call that travel?

He has the ball in both hands with his back to the basket. He completes the spin and the second foot obviously lands before the release. Seems pretty obvious to me.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

... the question remains, if I correctly call a travel which you can't see without slow motion, or even worse in my opinion, you simply refuse to call because some other official didn't /wouldn't, does that make me a bad official?

... and, does it make a sound?