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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:03pm
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As I posted earlier, I probably would have missed the travel in real time, but that doesn't make it a legal move, just another screw-up by yours truly.
I'll join that club, as I probably would have missed it too. Slow motion rules.

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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:05pm
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When is the last time you saw this move, slowed it down, and found it to be legal?
Thankfully we are officiating at real speed and I don't put air in the whistle just cause "it had to be a travel and I bet it is if we watch it in slow motion."

Thank goodness it's that way. I'd prefer fewer travels in games, not more.
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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:24pm
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I'd be in full agreement with a "fewer travel" movement
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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:36pm
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I'd be in full agreement with a "fewer travel" movement
That movement is alive and well. I'd guess that about 30% off travels are actually called during a BV game.
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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:38pm
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Thankfully we are officiating at real speed and I don't put air in the whistle just cause "it had to be a travel and I bet it is if we watch it in slow motion."

Thank goodness it's that way. I'd prefer fewer travels in games, not more.
My point was that, if every time you slow it down it is a travel, maybe we should learn from that and adjust how we see them at live speed.
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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:46pm
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My point was that, if every time you slow it down it is a travel, maybe we should learn from that and adjust how we see them at live speed.
I'd prefer to not view them ever in slow motion over that.
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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:51pm
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I'd prefer to not view them ever in slow motion over that.
You aren't alone...and I'm not sure I'm not with you. Though I do wish the rule reflected how the game is actually officiated...and expected to be officiated.
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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:17pm
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Slow motion rules.
Said the young gun to the much older, veteran, experienced, official. Thanks for the compliment. And if I officiate a few more years, I bet that I can go a lot slower than I do presently.

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I'd prefer to not view them ever in slow motion over that.
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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:13pm
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You aren't alone...and I'm not sure I'm not with you. Though I do wish the rule reflected how the game is actually officiated...and expected to be officiated.
Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner. If there is a different standard that is expected to be applied, change the rule to fit. Don't write it one way, expect it to be called a different way (not called), and criticize those who call it the way it is defined.
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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:17pm
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Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner. If there is a different standard that is expected to be applied, change the rule to fit. Don't write it one way, expect it to be called a different way (not called), and criticize those who call it the way it is defined.
I couldn't have said it better my self.
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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:32pm
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Not a travel anymore.
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One thing that has evolved is the argument here. There's less "He may not have completed the gather" and more "That's never called." So the question remains, if I correctly call a travel which you can't see without slow motion, or even worse in my opinion, you simply refuse to call because some other official didn't /wouldn't, does that make me a bad official?
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Old Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:03pm
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One thing that has evolved is the argument here. There's less "He may not have completed the gather" and more "That's never called." So the question remains, if I correctly call a travel which you can't see without slow motion, or even worse in my opinion, you simply refuse to call because some other official didn't /wouldn't, does that make me a bad official?
The "he may not have completed the gather" was never a good argument because, rules wise, there is no such thing as a gather. By rule, the dribble ends and the holding of the ball begins when the ball comes to rest in one or both hands. Being in two hands certainly makes it clear but it isn't a requirement and never has been.

Then, to expect defenders to maintain LGP on a player who is allowed to move in excess of the defined rules unfairly tips the balance in a way that was never intended.
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Live, this is really tough to get. I doubt if I'd pick this up in a high school game, especially if I'm looking for contact on this play at the same time.
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