Spin move. You make the call.... (Video)

[bob jenkins]

I think it only matters if it happens next week.

[Mr.C]

Travel

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think it only matters if it happens next week.

To me it does.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Yes, a travel, but almost never called.

[Bad Zebra]

It's a travel...but it's razor close so it would be tough to catch in real time. This player is extremely quick and athletic and is probably capable of pulling it off legally.

One of my pet peeves is getting the ones that are slow and obvious travels. I made it a personal mission last season to call them (HS level) whenever I saw them. Unfortunately, I was on an island. Very few other members of my local assn. would call them (or anywhere in the state that I could find) so I abandoned it this season. It's an uphill battle for a hill that I'm not willing to die on. When in Rome...

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

It's a travel...but it's razor close so it would be tough to catch in real time. This player is extremely quick and athletic and is probably capable of pulling it off legally.

When is the last time you saw this move, slowed it down, and found it to be legal?

As a player, it is awkward and unnatural to "delay" the gather long enough to avoid traveling.

[BryanV21]

If I can't describe the travel using rule book terminology, like talking about the pivot foot and what it did, then I don't like to make the call. If a coach wants to know what the player did, what do I say? "It looked weird"?

[BillyMac]

Travel. Plays like this are the ones that I have the most trouble with. I doubt that I would have called it a travel in real time in my high school game. Not because of some accepted philosophy, but because I would have just missed it.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

.... my Achilles heel is traveling, not at at the start of the dribble (easy peasey lemon squeezy), but at the end of dribble, when dribbler comes to an odd jump stop transitioning into the act of shooting.

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

If I can't describe the travel using rule book terminology, like talking about the pivot foot and what it did, then I don't like to make the call. If a coach wants to know what the player did, what do I say? "It looked weird"?

You really can't describe why a spin like this is a travel? It's the same as any other...the player just spins while committing the violation.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

When is the last time you saw this move, slowed it down, and found it to be legal?

Thankfully we are officiating at real speed and I don't put air in the whistle just cause "it had to be a travel and I bet it is if we watch it in slow motion."

Thank goodness it's that way. I'd prefer fewer travels in games, not more.

[Mr.C]

I'd be in full agreement with a "fewer travel" movement

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by Rich

Thankfully we are officiating at real speed and I don't put air in the whistle just cause "it had to be a travel and I bet it is if we watch it in slow motion."

Thank goodness it's that way. I'd prefer fewer travels in games, not more.

My point was that, if every time you slow it down it is a travel, maybe we should learn from that and adjust how we see them at live speed.