Video Req - CSU/Boise St - Buzzer Beater waved off....stopwatch used?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

And we now know that DVSport has as much correctness as a certain poster on this forum.

Please cease and desist with the gratuitous insults, even if they're made to unnamed posters.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

Please cease and desist with the gratuitous insults, even if they're made to unnamed posters.

He's talking about YOU, Adam!

[jpgc99]

A revision was just posted to the Memorandum on the Arbiter page. I'm even more confused now about when officials are allowed to use the monitor, and the procedures for using the digital stopwatch.

Due to a recent technological issue which arose during an instant replay review, the men’s and women’s rules committees are issuing this interpretation for the use of the stopwatch in future games.

When it is necessary to correct a timing mistake by the use of a stopwatch, only the digital stopwatch provided to the timer per Rule 2-10.1 may be used by the officials. The use of any other clock or timing device (including those that may be seen on instant replay equipment) to correct a timing
mistake is not authorized. Further, officials should ensure that the timing mistake being reviewed is in real time.

This interpretation is not intended nor does it replace or retract the ability of an official to correct
other timing mistakes by using an on-screen game clock display being shown on an instant replay
monitor as long as the display is synchronized with the game clock or is an actual live picture of the game clock. Rule 11-1.1.

The bold portions are the revisions.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

A revision was just posted to the Memorandum on the Arbiter page. I'm even more confused now about when officials are allowed to use the monitor, and the procedures for using the digital stopwatch.

Due to a recent technological issue which arose during an instant replay review, the men’s and women’s rules committees are issuing this interpretation for the use of the stopwatch in future games.

When it is necessary to correct a timing mistake by the use of a stopwatch, only the digital stopwatch provided to the timer per Rule 2-10.1 may be used by the officials. The use of any other clock or timing device (including those that may be seen on instant replay equipment) to correct a timing
mistake is not authorized. Further, officials should ensure that the timing mistake being reviewed is in real time.

This interpretation is not intended nor does it replace or retract the ability of an official to correct
other timing mistakes by using an on-screen game clock display being shown on an instant replay
monitor as long as the display is synchronized with the game clock or is an actual live picture of the game clock. Rule 11-1.1.

The bold portions are the revisions.

I have a feeling the change means we can no longer use time codes superimposed on a replay by the TV production truck. I've sent in an "Ask Jon" question for clarification.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I have a feeling the change means we can no longer use time codes superimposed on a replay by the TV production truck. I've sent in an "Ask Jon" question for clarification.

That is a huge step backwards, IMO. Yes, there was a bug. So fix it. The timecodes in the video are super accurate. They just counted them incorrectly.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That is a huge step backwards, IMO. Yes, there was a bug. So fix it. The timecodes in the video are super accurate. They just counted them incorrectly.

There's a difference - from what I can see - between the time code used by DV Sport and the time code generated by replay machines in the production truck.

In the production truck (or an edit room), the time code will slow down/speed up relative to the speed at which the clip is playing unless the clip itself is altered. In other words, if I play the unaltered clip at 50% speed the time code will count at half-speed. DV Sport's equipment - at least in this case - showed the time code relative to how long the clip actually played, regardless of the speed of the clip involved. That's why I mentioned earlier the idea of having a TV person watch the video with the officials. I would've picked up on the speed/counter aspect because I work with editing equipment. Someone else wouldn't because it that isn't something in their heads.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

There's a difference - from what I can see - between the time code used by DV Sport and the time code generated by replay machines in the production truck.

In the production truck (or an edit room), the time code will slow down/speed up relative to the speed at which the clip is playing unless the clip itself is altered. In other words, if I play the unaltered clip at 50% speed the time code will count at half-speed. DV Sport's equipment - at least in this case - showed the time code relative to how long the clip actually played, regardless of the speed of the clip involved. That's why I mentioned earlier the idea of having a TV person watch the video with the officials. I would've picked up on the speed/counter aspect because I work with editing equipment. Someone else wouldn't because it that isn't something in their heads.

Right. But from this memo, it seems that neither are allowed to be used...