Video Req - CSU/Boise St - Buzzer Beater waved off....stopwatch used?

[MechanicGuy]

I wasn't watching the game, but my Twitter timeline was in a bit of an uproar this evening.

From The Coloradoan

Then in the first overtime, with the game tied at 84-84 and the clock showing 0:00.8, Boise State’s Anthony Drmic inbounded to James Webb III, who got his circus shot off with .4 seconds, and the ball went in. Except the officials went to the monitor to hand-time the play with a stopwatch. Apparently, referee Tom O’Niell said, the clock started too late and the play took 1.4 seconds.

A slow-mo video.....which isn't particularly helpful
Coloradoan

[MechanicGuy]

Just saw the highlight on SportsCenter...no idea how they came to waving off that basket. SC showed it from two angles, timed it both times, and got .7 and .63

[JetMetFan]

I've never seen it done before but under NCAA 2-7-6 they're well within their rights to use a stopwatch to correct errors and mistakes. That being said, I'm not sure where they got an extra 0.6 seconds between the player touching the ball and the clock starting but I'm also not the one using the stopwatch.

As a TV person I'd be inclined to trust ESPN's timing since they'd be using the time code from the video. But again, I'm not the one with the stopwatch.

[ballgame99]

Not sure if they had slow motion video or not, but watching the video at the link above and using my handy dandy stopwatch on my phone this bucket should have been good.

[deecee]

cant wait for the conference's take on this. I think the officials screwed up and got this wrong.

[RefCT]

Deadspin posted on this: Stopwatch-Wielding Referees Blow It, Overturn Boise State Buzzer-BeaterÂ*

According to the stmt, they used a stopwatch available on the replay monitor? Wow, that is a horrible idea for many tech reasons.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

Just saw the highlight on SportsCenter...no idea how they came to waving off that basket. SC showed it from two angles, timed it both times, and got .7 and .63

Maybe they timed a slow motion replay???

[deecee]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

Maybe they timed a slow motion replay???

If that was the case then in real time the number would be LESS than .7 or .63 NOT greater.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

If that was the case then in real time the number would be LESS than .7 or .63 NOT greater.

I they used real time with a slow-motion replay? Think this through again.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Rich

I they used real time with a slow-motion replay? Think this through again.

Ahh I get what he was now saying. They used real time stopwatch with a slow motion replay.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by deecee

If that was the case then in real time the number would be LESS than .7 or .63 NOT greater.

Ummm no.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

Maybe they timed a slow motion replay???

Hah, that would be embarrassing, but can't wave it off with a certain someone's ability with technology.

[ILRef80]

This looks to be a pretty bad miss. Even if it started late, it certainly wasn't excessive. This is being overly officious, IMO.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by ILRef80

This looks to be a pretty bad miss. Even if it started late, it certainly wasn't excessive. This is being overly officious, IMO.

I wouldnt say OO, but I would say complicating a pretty straightforward process. I don't see a disparity of .6 seconds as they claim. Unless they did use a real time timer with a slow motion replay

[johnny d]

If you read the article and watch the video the conference put out about the play, you will see that the officials did this exactly by the book and used the technology and tools they were supposed to use. The stopwatch is part of the software package, it is supposed to adjust to the speed of the replay you are watching, therefore it was not possible for the officials to use a real-time stop watch on a slow-motion play. Now if you want to make the argument that the software didn't work properly or needs to be fixed, that is another issue, and not something for the game officials to be concerned about. For those of you (redacted) saying the officials did something wrong in this situation, you, as usual, are sadly mistaken.