Another suspension looming?

[Rich]

And I don't disagree with that. As you said, college is different.

[JetMetFan]

Another factor mentioned to me by an official not on the Forum is this was a conference game. That official said maybe they might not get dinged quite so hard in a non-conference game because it only affects RPI (again, he said "maybe"). Conference games may affect whether you even get to the NCAA tournament - especially in D2 and D3 - because every school may not make the conference tournament.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Another factor mentioned to me by an official not on the Forum is this was a conference game. That official said maybe they might not get dinged quite so hard in a non-conference game because it only affects RPI (again, he said "maybe"). Conference games may affect whether you even get to the NCAA tournament - especially in D2 and D3 - because every school may not make the conference tournament.

I looked it up, they are both in the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference. So this is clearly was a conference game and I am sure the suspension was about the conference tournament.

Peace

[Rich]

I worked 2 college sports and I would expect to be sat down if I made this kind of mistake.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rich

I worked 2 college sports and I would expect to be sat down if I made this kind of mistake.

I'd expect to be sat down for this kind of mistake in a HS game.

[CallMeMrRef]

Similar situation in HS boys game last night. Winning basket made with about 2 seconds on clock. ball inbounded and desperation shot taken and missed. Fans and benches empty. Meanwhile clock stops at 0.1 second as the old trail, new lead recognizes a time out. They end up putting 1.1 seconds back on the clock and issue a T - don't know if for fans or players running on to court.
NCAA covers this as this thread reveals, but no real direction in the NFHS rule or case book.

Thoughts?

[SNIPERBBB]

Closest thing would be the following play but I'd be hesitant to use it2.8.1 SITUATION:

What guidelines should be exercised by the officials when spectators’ actions are such that they interfere with the administration of the game?

RULING: The rules book states “the official may rule fouls on either team if its supporters act in such a way as to interfere with the proper conduct of the game.” It is significant to note the word used is “may.” This gives permission, but does not in any way imply that officials must call technical fouls on team followers or supporters for unsporting acts. Thus, while officials do have the authority to penalize a team whose spectators interfere with the proper conduct of the game, this authority must be used with extreme caution and discretion. While the authority is there, the official must rarely use it, because experience has demonstrated that calling hasty technical fouls on the crowd rarely solves the problem and may, in fact, result in penalizing the wrong team because the official may not have proper knowledge as to which team's supporters were responsible for the unsporting act.

[chapmaja]

I'm glad I wasn't the coach on this. I wouldn't have been as restrained as the coach was when informed of the technical foul. Winona St likely would have been shooting at least 6 free throws if I were coaching, because I'm sure I would have picked up two.

Unfortunately I have seen this too much as a student athlete at the DII level, and as a graduate of a DII university. The officiating at the DII level in many sports is not good. I recall to many games where the officials were more of a story than the game itself.

The best line I heard about DII officiating was "DII officiating is like DII playing, they aren't good enough to be at the DI level, but aren't doing it for the fun of the game like at the DIII level." It's so true in many cases (not all, as there are a lot of good DII athletes and officials).

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

I'm glad I wasn't the coach on this. I wouldn't have been as restrained as the coach was when informed of the technical foul. Winona St likely would have been shooting at least 6 free throws if I were coaching, because I'm sure I would have picked up two.

Unfortunately I have seen this too much as a student athlete at the DII level, and as a graduate of a DII university. The officiating at the DII level in many sports is not good. I recall to many games where the officials were more of a story than the game itself.

The best line I heard about DII officiating was "DII officiating is like DII playing, they aren't good enough to be at the DI level, but aren't doing it for the fun of the game like at the DIII level." It's so true in many cases (not all, as there are a lot of good DII athletes and officials).

Difference being that a lot of D2 officials are also D1 officials.