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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 11:31pm
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Remember Tony Greene and Jim Boeheim a couple of years ago? Same situation....bad call, but didn't excuse Boeheim's response. Did Tony Greene aggressively approach and/or signal the "T"? Nope. Same thing with Kelly Self and Bill Self on Monday night. My point is....try to be de-escalatory.
I don't know what game you were watching. That was as close to a bang-bang block/charge as there ever is.
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 11:34pm
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I don't know what game you were watching. That was as close to a bang-bang block/charge as there ever is.

It was, but Tony was late rotating and got caught looking over his shoulder. It was a block. Not a 50/50 call if you're in position to see it in time.


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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 11:39pm
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It was, but Tony was late rotating and got caught looking over his shoulder. It was a block. Not a 50/50 call if you're in position to see it in time.
And he got it right IMO.

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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 11:56pm
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It was, but Tony was late rotating and got caught looking over his shoulder. It was a block. Not a 50/50 call if you're in position to see it in time.
Tony went on record and basically said he made the correct call.

Sorry, but for you to say it wasn't a close call is insane.
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 11:59pm
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Tony went on record and basically said he made the correct call.

He also didn't work the NCAA tournament that year.


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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 12:01am
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He also didn't work the NCAA tournament that year.
What does that mean? That one call made that big of a difference? I doubt that seriously.

BTW, not sure what else the defender can do?



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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 12:10am
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What does that mean? That one call made that big of a difference? I doubt that seriously.
It means he just made a blatantly false statement because Greene worked a regional final that year.
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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 12:15am
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It means he just made a blatantly false statement because Greene worked a regional final that year.
I certainly did not remember it that way either, but I was too lazy to look it up at the time. Glad you did. He worked the Final Four the year before too I believe.

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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 12:02am
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He also didn't work the NCAA tournament that year.


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You should do your research and not just make blind statements because you're wrong again. He worked a regional final in 2014.

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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 07:57am
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You should do your research and not just make blind statements because you're wrong again. He worked a regional final in 2014.

You're right. On the drive in to work this morning I remembered what I had pondered back then. It was that he did not get selected for the final four for the first time in many years that season. Did not make it last year, either.

I apologize for the inaccurate statement.

As to the call, we'll agree to disagree, but at a camp the following summer we broke down the play and the mechanics ad nausea. It took a while for the clinicians to convince me, but eventually I came to the realization that it was a block. Certainly as close to a 50-50 call there can be, I will give you that. If Tony rotates sooner and has turned and is standing still when the contact occurs, I believe the call, charge or not, would have been more credible. That's my biggest takeaway.

But don't forget that my original point was that Tony handled the assessment of the technicals perfectly.


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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 08:15am
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You're right. On the drive in to work this morning I remembered what I had pondered back then. It was that he did not get selected for the final four for the first time in many years that season. Did not make it last year, either.

I apologize for the inaccurate statement.

As to the call, we'll agree to disagree, but at a camp the following summer we broke down the play and the mechanics ad nausea. It took a while for the clinicians to convince me, but eventually I came to the realization that it was a block. Certainly as close to a 50-50 call there can be, I will give you that. If Tony rotates sooner and has turned and is standing still when the contact occurs, I believe the call, charge or not, would have been more credible. That's my biggest takeaway.

But don't forget that my original point was that Tony handled the assessment of the technicals perfectly.


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My memory of that play is that the call was correct but that the mechanics in covering the call were not the best. Also, the real problem was that a few minutes earlier a Duke player (Parker??) had run over a Syracuse defender on a fast break and that play was incorrectly called a block.

This, of course, has nothing to do with Boeheim's outrageous behavior, or the coach from PA.
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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 10:19am
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You're right. On the drive in to work this morning I remembered what I had pondered back then. It was that he did not get selected for the final four for the first time in many years that season. Did not make it last year, either.

I apologize for the inaccurate statement.

As to the call, we'll agree to disagree, but at a camp the following summer we broke down the play and the mechanics ad nausea. It took a while for the clinicians to convince me, but eventually I came to the realization that it was a block. Certainly as close to a 50-50 call there can be, I will give you that. If Tony rotates sooner and has turned and is standing still when the contact occurs, I believe the call, charge or not, would have been more credible. That's my biggest takeaway.

But don't forget that my original point was that Tony handled the assessment of the technicals perfectly.


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I would like to know how they justified a block.
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Old Thu Jan 07, 2016, 07:32am
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It was, but Tony was late rotating and got caught looking over his shoulder. It was a block. Not a 50/50 call if you're in position to see it in time.


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Don't know what you're talking about. Greene nailed that call.
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