is this considered a Kick in basketball

[Peeps]

I don't mean to sound like I'm asking over and over hoping to get to hear what I want. I'm no ref but to me if a player closes his legs and then the defender still throws the ball in an attempt to go through his legs this to me would be a bad pass, not an intentional kick

Had he thrown the pass then I closed my legs that would be cut and dry as a kick

Thanks for the input


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Originally Posted by Peeps

I don't mean to sound like I'm asking over and over hoping to get to hear what I want. I'm no ref but to me if a player closes his legs and then the defender still throws the ball in an attempt to go through his legs this to me would be a bad pass, not an intentional kick

Had he thrown the pass then I closed my legs that would be cut and dry as a kick

Thanks for the input


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Sure, maybe if you really closed your legs before the pass it isn't a kick. But I would argue it is extremely rare for this to happen. Most times you are reacting to the pass and that reaction is going to come as the ball is being released.

[Smitty]

Why did you close your legs at that point? This makes no sense to me unless you knew he was going to try and pass through your legs (maybe he did this earlier in the game) and you were defending against it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Peeps

I don't mean to sound like I'm asking over and over hoping to get to hear what I want. I'm no ref but to me if a player closes his legs and then the defender still throws the ball in an attempt to go through his legs this to me would be a bad pass, not an intentional kick

Had he thrown the pass then I closed my legs that would be cut and dry as a kick

Thanks for the input


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Putting your legs together is not a proper defensive stance, why would you do that?

[Peeps]

well, im 45 and old

while its not proper it was to block a pass from going between my legs, i had my arms and hands ready to deflect a pass to either side

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Peeps

well, im 45 and old

while its not proper it was to block a pass from going between my legs, i had my arms and hands ready to deflect a pass to either side

So the bolded part should answer your question as to whether or not it was a kick.

[Peeps]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

So the bolded part should answer your question as to whether or not it was a kick.

.....if i had moved my knees together while the pass was in the air.

however i closed my legs before the ball left his hand

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Peeps

.....if i had moved my knees together while the pass was in the air.

however i closed my legs before the ball left his hand

we know what you did, and when.

It likely doesn't matter.

Play: Ball rolls away from players. A1 sees he ball coming toward him and doesn't move his leg. The ball rolls and hits A1 in the leg and A1 reaches down and picks up the ball. Ruling: Kicking violation.

Play: A1 and B1 are on the floor fighting for a "loose ball." The ball rolls into A1's legs and A1 clamps the ball so B1 cant' pull it away. Ruling" Kicking violation.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

we know what you did, and when.

It likely doesn't matter.

Play: Ball rolls away from players. A1 sees he ball coming toward him and doesn't move his leg. The ball rolls and hits A1 in the leg and A1 reaches down and picks up the ball. Ruling: Kicking violation.

Play: A1 and B1 are on the floor fighting for a "loose ball." The ball rolls into A1's legs and A1 clamps the ball so B1 cant' pull it away. Ruling" Kicking violation.

Bob, I never feel good about disagreeing with you. However, you're wrong on the first play. You cannot have a kicking violation from inaction.