Wrong Starter in Book

[Rich]

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[Smitty]

For the first time in almost 30 years I had a scorer hit the horn as we were about to start the 4th quarter and inform me that one of the players on the floor to start the 4th quarter was not on the court at the end of the 3rd quarter. Just before he brought that to my attention, the coach of that team had told me he had a girl who was bleeding and he put someone else in the game for her. Which was the reason for the difference in players on the court. I was amazed that he even paid any attention to it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Smitty

For the first time in almost 30 years I had a scorer hit the horn as we were about to start the 4th quarter and inform me that one of the players on the floor to start the 4th quarter was not on the court at the end of the 3rd quarter. Just before he brought that to my attention, the coach of that team had told me he had a girl who was bleeding and he put someone else in the game for her. Which was the reason for the difference in players on the court. I was amazed that he even paid any attention to it.

I don't even know why that rule exists. I've never seen an AC come over to the table between quarters to see who the opponent would be sending on to the court.

[letemplay]

And how many officials (on court or at table) would remember who subbed in for who...which normally doesn't matter except at end of close game offense/defense substitutions. (Player that is subbed for and leaves game must sit a tick before returning.)

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by Smitty

For the first time in almost 30 years I had a scorer hit the horn as we were about to start the 4th quarter and inform me that one of the players on the floor to start the 4th quarter was not on the court at the end of the 3rd quarter. Just before he brought that to my attention, the coach of that team had told me he had a girl who was bleeding and he put someone else in the game for her. Which was the reason for the difference in players on the court. I was amazed that he even paid any attention to it.

One of my favorite stories: Back in my coaching days (about 10 years ago) we were at a tournament in another county (differ chapter of officials than my local one). Our opponents brought in five young quick players late in the first quarter and slapped a press on. When the quarter ended, I asked my assistant to watch to see if they brought the starters back or left the press team in. Nobody checked in. They break the huddle with their five starters on the court. I get the timer to hit the horn and the scorer to tell the officials that none of them checked in. The officials discuss. The ruling?






Five technical fouls! And for some reason, we were awarded one free throw for each. So we started the quarter with five FTs.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

One of my favorite stories: Back in my coaching days (about 10 years ago) we were at a tournament in another county (differ chapter of officials than my local one). Our opponents brought in five young quick players late in the first quarter and slapped a press on. When the quarter ended, I asked my assistant to watch to see if they brought the starters back or left the press team in. Nobody checked in. They break the huddle with their five starters on the court. I get the timer to hit the horn and the scorer to tell the officials that none of them checked in. The officials discuss. The ruling?

Five technical fouls! And for some reason, we were awarded one free throw for each. So we started the quarter with five FTs.

A royal butchering by the crew.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by deecee

A royal butchering by the crew.

Maybe, maybe not. International rules can be funky.

FIBA has some goofy rules.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by Dad

Maybe, maybe not. International rules can be funky.

FIBA has some goofy rules.

Different COUNTY...not country

[Dad]

Originally Posted by egj13

Different COUNTY...not country

Good get. My bad.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

A royal butchering by the crew.

Please enlighten us with your ruling.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Please enlighten us with your ruling.

Well, regardless of the ruling, it's hard to imagine one worse than 5 technical fouls enforced by 5 total FTs.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Please enlighten us with your ruling.

First off if I give 5 T's there will be 10 FT's shot in a HS game.

Secondly I would instruct the coach to put in the previous 5 that ended the quarter and we would play on. I would not assess any T's.

Originally Posted by deecee

First off if I give 5 T's there will be 10 FT's shot in a HS game.

So if you eject 5 players for coming off the bench and not participating in a fight, you are going to shoot 10 free throws?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

Join the NFHS for $35. Full access to all NFHS publications via the Arbiter hub.

I can't join. Connecticut is on list of states where individuals can't join the NFHS. Connecticut is all IAABO. We get our NFHS rulebook, and NFHS casebook, from IAABO, not from the NFHS. I used to join the NFHS as a "fake" volleyball official but now that Arbiter and the NFHS have joined forces, the NFHS knows that I'm not a volleyball official.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I can't join. Connecticut is on list of states where individuals can't join the NFHS. Connecticut is all IAABO. We get our NFHS rulebook, and NFHS casebook, from IAABO, not from the NFHS. I used to join the NFHS as a "fake" volleyball official but now that Arbiter and the NFHS have joined forces, the NFHS knows that I'm not a volleyball official.

I don't think they'll stop anyone from paying the $35 at NFHS.org.