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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:48am
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Wrong starter should almost never be a T, especially at lower levels (not sure what level yours was) because once its been thrown up, its too late to penalize. The scorer has to be pretty quick on their feet to note that all 10 players on the court after the huddles break but before the ball is tipped are the same 10 marked in the book. While less likely, its actually easier in varsity games, as most of the time starters are announced, and the scorer could find out then.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:53pm
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Wrong starter should almost never be a T, especially at lower levels (not sure what level yours was) because once its been thrown up, its too late to penalize. The scorer has to be pretty quick on their feet to note that all 10 players on the court after the huddles break but before the ball is tipped are the same 10 marked in the book. While less likely, its actually easier in varsity games, as most of the time starters are announced, and the scorer could find out then.
See Also 3.2.2e. If the scorer does recognize it before the ball becomes live we are to notify coach and give him opportunity to put the right player on the floor.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:37pm
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See Also 3.2.2e. If the scorer does recognize it before the ball becomes live we are to notify coach and give him opportunity to put the right player on the floor.
Oh, that's right, forgot about that provision. Even less of a chance of a T!!
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:47pm
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See Also 3.2.2e. If the scorer does recognize it before the ball becomes live we are to notify coach and give him opportunity to put the right player on the floor.
3.2.2 SITUATION F: Team A designates No. 32 as a starter by the 10-minute
time frame prior to the game. In (a), as the teams take the floor for the opening
jump ball, the scorer recognizes that No. 34 is on court instead of No. 32 for Team
A and notifies the officials. In (b), following about two minutes of play in the first
quarter, a time-out is called. The scorer notifies the officials that although Team
A No. 32 was a designated starter, No. 34 started instead and is still in the game.
RULING: In (a), if Team A’s coach replaces No. 34 for the correct designated
starter, No. 32, no penalty is assessed. If Team A’s coach elects to start the game
with No. 34 instead of No. 32, a technical foul is assessed to Team A for changing
a designated starter. In (b), no penalty is assessed. The infraction had to be
discovered and penalized before the ball became live to start the game. Once the
ball became live, it was too late to penalize for this specific infraction. (3-2-2a;
10-1-2a Penalty)
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:30pm
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3.2.2 SITUATION F: Team A designates No. 32 as a starter by the 10-minute
time frame prior to the game. In (a), as the teams take the floor for the opening
jump ball, the scorer recognizes that No. 34 is on court instead of No. 32 for Team
A and notifies the officials. In (b), following about two minutes of play in the first
quarter, a time-out is called. The scorer notifies the officials that although Team
A No. 32 was a designated starter, No. 34 started instead and is still in the game.
RULING: In (a), if Team A’s coach replaces No. 34 for the correct designated
starter, No. 32, no penalty is assessed. If Team A’s coach elects to start the game
with No. 34 instead of No. 32, a technical foul is assessed to Team A for changing
a designated starter. In (b), no penalty is assessed. The infraction had to be
discovered and penalized before the ball became live to start the game. Once the
ball became live, it was too late to penalize for this specific infraction. (3-2-2a;
10-1-2a Penalty)
We need to get you updated books. This is sit. E in the 15/16 books.
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Old Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:15am
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We need to get you updated books.
The PDF casebook on my hard drive is from 2011-12. Any idea on how to get a newer version?
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