Pushy Coaches

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Adam

If anything, "coach, I'm watching and that was not a travel." Next comment, let him know that's enough.

It can also help if you use some phrase like "the right foot was the pivot and it didn't move".

Presumably you (the OP) had two experiences V partners -- what did they say about the issue? A lot of game management is local, and you don't want to be too far away (in either direction) from whatever the norm is there, even if it's not the norm here.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

... "the right foot was the pivot and it didn't move".

Agree. It tells the coach that you know what to look for, and know which foot was the pivot foot. Probably a lot more than he knows. If it doesn't shut him up, it will, at least, have him scratching his head for a few seconds and give you time to move out of earshot.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree. It tells the coach that you know what to look for, and know which foot was the pivot foot. Probably a lot more than he knows. If it doesn't shut him up, it will, at least, have him scratching his head for a few seconds and give you time to move out of earshot.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

You asked, so CLICK HERE to find out.

It's a good thing that you were within earshot to answer my question.

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[JeffM]

I think he earned a T, but your response may have been effective.

In my opinion, if you look like a "fresh face", it might be good to let him know that he can't bark at you. I suspect it would depend on whether your assignor would support it.

Sometimes coaches are right when they yell for three seconds and sometimes they are right when they yell for travels. Players are taught to walk into their jump shot and often travel, but it isn't called. I have been told by a veteran college official that a good response to comments from a coach who wants that to be called is "We're not splitting hairs tonight". Of course, that is better received if it comes from a veteran.

I also think many players travel when they catch the ball on the run, but we shouldn't be looking for "gotcha" travels when we're the only ones in the gym who can see it.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by JeffM

I think he earned a T, but your response may have been effective.

In my opinion, if you look like a "fresh face", it might be good to let him know that he can't bark at you. I suspect it would depend on whether your assignor would support it.

Sometimes coaches are right when they yell for three seconds and sometimes they are right when they yell for travels. Players are taught to walk into their jump shot and often travel, but it isn't called. I have been told by a veteran college official that a good response to comments from a coach who wants that to be called is "We're not splitting hairs tonight". Of course, that is better received if it comes from a veteran.

I also think many players travel when they catch the ball on the run, but we shouldn't be looking for "gotcha" travels when we're the only ones in the gym who can see it.

Interesting. I've always called it because I think they gain an advantage by walking into their shot without dribbling. I think this is a different discussion for a different thread though. Carry on.

OP: As soon as he tells you something along the lines of you being a JV official...ring him up. You've earned your way to the varsity level.

[refinks]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Interesting. I've always called it because I think they gain an advantage by walking into their shot without dribbling. I think this is a different discussion for a different thread though. Carry on.

OP: As soon as he tells you something along the lines of you being a JV official...ring him up. You've earned your way to the varsity level.

I tend to agree, if they are gonna bring the level of the game and the level of our officiating into it, that's an automatic for me. In this situation, he may not have directly came out and said the OP was JV official, but it was definitely hinted it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JeffM

I think he earned a T, but your response may have been effective.

In my opinion, if you look like a "fresh face", it might be good to let him know that he can't bark at you. I suspect it would depend on whether your assignor would support it.

Sometimes coaches are right when they yell for three seconds and sometimes they are right when they yell for travels.

Coaches are never right when they yell for anything. deecee has it right. Another version of what he said is, "You're hear to coach your players, not me."

[RedAndWhiteRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It can also help if you use some phrase like "the right foot was the pivot and it didn't move".

Presumably you (the OP) had two experiences V partners -- what did they say about the issue? A lot of game management is local, and you don't want to be too far away (in either direction) from whatever the norm is there, even if it's not the norm here.

One guy with 30+ years, another guy in his fifth or sixth year I think. It's funny, the more experienced guy said "Ask him which foot was the pivot foot." in the car after the game. That actually makes a lot of sense.

This was my first game at this particular school about an hour away from my hometown, but somehow still in a district with my local schools. The coach in question was from the visiting team, it was a non-district game so I likely won't be seeing that coach again any time soon.