Pushy Coaches

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree. It tells the coach that you know what to look for, and know which foot was the pivot foot. Probably a lot more than he knows. If it doesn't shut him up, it will, at least, have him scratching his head for a few seconds and give you time to move out of earshot.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

You asked, so CLICK HERE to find out.

It's a good thing that you were within earshot to answer my question.

Don't you just love the Google?

[JeffM]

I think he earned a T, but your response may have been effective.

In my opinion, if you look like a "fresh face", it might be good to let him know that he can't bark at you. I suspect it would depend on whether your assignor would support it.

Sometimes coaches are right when they yell for three seconds and sometimes they are right when they yell for travels. Players are taught to walk into their jump shot and often travel, but it isn't called. I have been told by a veteran college official that a good response to comments from a coach who wants that to be called is "We're not splitting hairs tonight". Of course, that is better received if it comes from a veteran.

I also think many players travel when they catch the ball on the run, but we shouldn't be looking for "gotcha" travels when we're the only ones in the gym who can see it.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by JeffM

I think he earned a T, but your response may have been effective.

In my opinion, if you look like a "fresh face", it might be good to let him know that he can't bark at you. I suspect it would depend on whether your assignor would support it.

Sometimes coaches are right when they yell for three seconds and sometimes they are right when they yell for travels. Players are taught to walk into their jump shot and often travel, but it isn't called. I have been told by a veteran college official that a good response to comments from a coach who wants that to be called is "We're not splitting hairs tonight". Of course, that is better received if it comes from a veteran.

I also think many players travel when they catch the ball on the run, but we shouldn't be looking for "gotcha" travels when we're the only ones in the gym who can see it.

Interesting. I've always called it because I think they gain an advantage by walking into their shot without dribbling. I think this is a different discussion for a different thread though. Carry on.

OP: As soon as he tells you something along the lines of you being a JV official...ring him up. You've earned your way to the varsity level.

[refinks]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Interesting. I've always called it because I think they gain an advantage by walking into their shot without dribbling. I think this is a different discussion for a different thread though. Carry on.

OP: As soon as he tells you something along the lines of you being a JV official...ring him up. You've earned your way to the varsity level.

I tend to agree, if they are gonna bring the level of the game and the level of our officiating into it, that's an automatic for me. In this situation, he may not have directly came out and said the OP was JV official, but it was definitely hinted it.

[RedAndWhiteRef]

Originally Posted by refinks

I tend to agree, if they are gonna bring the level of the game and the level of our officiating into it, that's an automatic for me. In this situation, he may not have directly came out and said the OP was JV official, but it was definitely hinted it.

Well, I had worked the JV game beforehand too, so he wasn't entirely wrong. Whatever the case, I now know I should have given him a T.

I've only given one in my four-plus years of officiating--rung up a kid for clapping in his opponent's face after blocking a shot. That one was a no-brainer.

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by RedAndWhiteRef

Well, I had worked the JV game beforehand too, so he wasn't entirely wrong. Whatever the case, I now know I should have given him a T.

I've only given one in my four-plus years of officiating--rung up a kid for clapping in his opponent's face after blocking a shot. That one was a no-brainer.

Yes he was. He didn't have a JV official in his varsity game, he had a varsity official in his JV game. He should consider himself fortunate.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by RedAndWhiteRef

Well, I had worked the JV game beforehand too, so he wasn't entirely wrong. Whatever the case, I now know I should have given him a T.



I've only given one in my four-plus years of officiating--rung up a kid for clapping in his opponent's face after blocking a shot. That one was a no-brainer.

Officials need to stop thinking that technical fouls are something to be avoided at all costs. Sometimes a coach has one coming and not giving one encourages bad behavior. Warn once...if he comes back again, whack him and move on.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JeffM

I think he earned a T, but your response may have been effective.

In my opinion, if you look like a "fresh face", it might be good to let him know that he can't bark at you. I suspect it would depend on whether your assignor would support it.

Sometimes coaches are right when they yell for three seconds and sometimes they are right when they yell for travels.

Coaches are never right when they yell for anything. deecee has it right. Another version of what he said is, "You're hear to coach your players, not me."