Non-Correctable Error

[Dad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You say it does not work for everyone, but what happens when you do not switch the whistle properly? You default to the whistle location all the time? Or do you have to reconstruct what took place previously?

The same thing happens on a foul situation. If you knew that the scoreboard said 6 fouls and now you called what you see as 7 fouls, how do you figure out you are in the bonus or not? What do you do if the official scorer tells you that was incorrect? Do you just take their word for it or do you start asking questions?

There are a lot of things we have to at the very least be aware of and even if someone is wrong and correct. How else do you correct these situations? You have to reconstruct what you did before and be aware of and the arrow is no different.

Peace

I only default to something in my pocket when there is no arrow at the table or on the score board. I use pocket+reconstruction. If they both aren't there I'll see if table/partner knows, but it's pretty rare. Only really happens in games with a lot of jump balls.

minus the score board and table, I've never been successful in keeping track of fouls during a game. If the count says six than the next foul is a shot or two. If the table tells me it was wrong and it should've been say 5 instead of 6 then I'm going with them.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dad

I only default to something in my pocket when there is no arrow at the table or on the score board. I use pocket+reconstruction. If they both aren't there I'll see if table/partner knows, but it's pretty rare. Only really happens in games with a lot of jump balls.

minus the score board and table, I've never been successful in keeping track of fouls during a game. If the count says six than the next foul is a shot or two. If the table tells me it was wrong and it should've been say 5 instead of 6 then I'm going with them.

The rule requires there to be an arrow or device for the AP at the table. If you are using a water bottle or a pencil, that is adequate if you do not have a situation.

Oh and I never use the scoreboard either as half the time I am not trying to figure out if we are giving it to the home team or the visiting team (and you are not always at the real home team's schools, like this past week).

So if you can go by what the table tells you (and they have all that information at the table BTW), why do you need a crutch?

Peace

[spret93]

The first two replies answered my question perfectly (the play I was asking about was not an AP throw-in). Thanks guys.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mdswitz

The first two replies answered my question perfectly (the play I was asking about was not an AP throw-in). Thanks guys.

yeah, we tend to find other things to nitpick once a question has been answered.

Welcome to the forum.

[spret93]

Originally Posted by Adam

yeah, we tend to find other things to nitpick once a question has been answered.

Welcome to the forum.

yes, some free insight! Thanks!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you are using a water bottle or a pencil, that is adequate if you do not have a situation.

The Catholic middle school league that I occasionally work has a policy that the table does not keep track of the arrow. We're lucky if they keep the correct score on the scoreboard, remember to turn the clock on, and off, properly, and keep track of team fouls. Officials are required to keep track of the arrow. It's in our contract.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The Catholic middle school league that I occasionally work has a policy that the table does not keep track of the arrow. We're lucky if they keep the correct score on the scoreboard, remember to turn the clock on, and off, properly, and keep track of team fouls. Officials are required to keep track of the arrow. It's in our contract.

you need someone with backbone to rewrite your contract.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

you need someone with backbone to rewrite your contract.

We're already stealing money. $86.00 for an Catholic middle school eighth grade girl/boy doubleheader; seven minute periods; in, and out, in about two hours; all games close to home. Last season we were asked to email the scores to the league webmaster after the game. For $86.00? No problem.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We're already stealing money. $86.00 for an Catholic middle school eighth grade girl/boy doubleheader; seven minute periods;, in, and out, in about two hours; all games close to home. Last season we were asked to email the scores to the league webmaster after the game. For $86.00? No problem.

Yeah, I can see that. Disregard my previous post.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We're already stealing money. $86.00 for an Catholic middle school eighth grade girl/boy doubleheader; seven minute periods; in, and out, in about two hours; all games close to home. Last season we were asked to email the scores to the league webmaster after the game. For $86.00? No problem.

Hmmmm. I guess we have a better negotiator. We get $90 for a middle school doubleheader, we have arrows at the table, and we don't have to send anyone the scores.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I guess we have a better negotiator. We get $90 for a middle school doubleheader, we have arrows at the table, and we don't have to send anyone the scores.

Eat free at the concession stands?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I guess we have a better negotiator. We get $90 for a middle school doubleheader, we have arrows at the table, and we don't have to send anyone the scores.

New Catholic middle school assigner this season. Still no arrow at the table, but we don't have to send in the scores. Also a pay increase for "junior varsity" (fifth, and sixth grade) games. $86.00 for three games (six minute periods). He must have held out for a better deal during negotiations in a smoke filled back room.