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Old Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:32pm
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When I was there, (WIAA) almost everyone I worked with used this mechanic. It was a NASO recommendation at the time and I liked it. Now doing 2-person in AZ where everyone looks at me like I'm an alien if I suggest it, I miss it. Trail needs to move along the arc to midcourt to get proper angle if the play dictates.

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And the trail still can't even half-way reliably see if a player steps on or dribbles on the side line or not. To see that, the trail would have to come within about 10' of the far sideline, much farther than midcourt. If they need to do that, maybe they should just do a cross-court rotation and stay over there. Or, leave the coverage of the line itself to the lead but have coverage of balls knocked out go to the trail.
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And the trail still can't even half-way reliably see if a player steps on or dribbles on the side line or not. To see that, the trail would have to come within about 10' of the far sideline, much farther than midcourt. If they need to do that, maybe they should just do a cross-court rotation and stay over there. Or, leave the coverage of the line itself to the lead but have coverage of balls knocked out go to the trail.
If I understand his comments, he is not talking about making a call on the sideline, but to move closer to the play instead of being glued to the sideline the Trail is located by. That is the exact same mechanic we recommend folks use here in our state in a 2 person game. It is not about the line, it is about the movement to show you are on-ball so the lead can concentrate on coverage in their primary.

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Old Tue Aug 25, 2015, 12:45am
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If I understand his comments, he is not talking about making a call on the sideline, but to move closer to the play instead of being glued to the sideline the Trail is located by. That is the exact same mechanic we recommend folks use here in our state in a 2 person game. It is not about the line, it is about the movement to show you are on-ball so the lead can concentrate on coverage in their primary.

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Agree 100% with the points on the trail moving. The trail should be doing that even if the L has the sideline.

If the point is to keep the lead from even looking up the line at (as seemed to be the point), who is covering the line? The trail can't see it and the lead isn't looking there?
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Old Tue Aug 25, 2015, 02:28am
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I think we are getting a few things mixed up here. There is a difference in calling a violation for a toe on the line, compared to throwing the ball out of bounds because you made a bad pass. One is easy for the Trail to recognized, the other is almost impossible to know it took place.

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Old Tue Aug 25, 2015, 04:31am
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I think we are getting a few things mixed up here. There is a difference in calling a violation for a toe on the line, compared to throwing the ball out of bounds because you made a bad pass. One is easy for the Trail to recognized, the other is almost impossible to know it took place.

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Exactly.

And if the IAABO mechanic is so that the lead doesn't look up the sideline so they can keep their vision on the post, who is going to cover the line?

Is the posted information just incomplete and that it only applies to the ball being thrown OOB???
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