IAABO oob sideline mechanics

[constable]

So our board is new to using IAABO mechanics. I am a little confused.

If you read pages 21-23 of the IAABO manual it seems me that the trail has OOB responsibility if the ball is on the opposite side of the court from which they are standing on and it the ball is above the FT line extended.

Am I correct?? It seems illogical to me but the manual leads me to believe I am correct.

[tref]

You are correct... isnt that how the Federation does it in 2 person?

If the L looks way up there it would be tough to officiate the low post.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tref

If the L looks way up there it would be tough to officiate the low post.

Yep -- and that's the tradeoff. A difficult call on the sideline (at least on some plays) vs. staying in the primary and officiating the post.

[tref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yep -- and that's the tradeoff. A difficult call on the sideline (at least on some plays) vs. staying in the primary and officiating the post.

Tough call for the T but we have to get off the sidline & into the court (sometimes the circle) to get those angles.
Crews of 3 across the board would ultimately solve that problem.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tref

Tough call for the T but we have to get off the sidline & into the court (sometimes the circle) to get those angles.
Crews of 3 across the board would ultimately solve that problem.

A crew of 3 would not make sense in Rec Leagues and kiddie leagues and most intramural leagues.

As far as the Lead having to officiate his sideline plus the post, the L should still have awareness of where the ball is and if it goes OOB. And when it goes out on his line and he doesn't know what caused it then that is the purpose of blowing your whistle and asking for help.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

A crew of 3 would not make sense in Rec Leagues and kiddie leagues and most intramural leagues.

As far as the Lead having to officiate his sideline plus the post, the L should still have awareness of where the ball is and if it goes OOB. And when it goes out on his line and he doesn't know what caused it then that is the purpose of blowing your whistle and asking for help.

Of course not, I thought we were talking sanctioned ball games.

Proper technique BNR!
I hate it when a partner doesnt know & doesnt blow I think I'll add this to my pregame, depending on who I'm with.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

As far as the Lead having to officiate his sideline plus the post, the L should still have awareness of where the ball is and if it goes OOB. And when it goes out on his line and he doesn't know what caused it then that is the purpose of blowing your whistle and asking for help.

Sure, on the plays where the ball is passed into the bleachers. But, on the plays where A2 barely steps (or doesn't) on the line, ...

No matter who has primary on this, the other official needs to be able to help, and needs to know when s/he can help (and when s/he can't).

If "A crew of 3 would not make sense in Rec Leagues and kiddie leagues and most intramural leagues" (and I agree), recognize that what you're saying is that this call is going to get missed some of the time, and that's a fair tradeoff.

After all, if this call (and others, of course) never got missed in 2-person, there would never be a reason for three officials.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Sure....

I agree. 2-person is just going to miss a few of these tightrope calls on the L's sideline out high (or in the backcourt). Short of going all the wall across to the opposite sideline, the trail is just not going to have a view down the line to see the player barely step on the line (or not) and the lead may or may not be able to look out there. The lead should generally be able to look since it is unlikely that there will be post activity that matters when the ball is that far out and at risk of being OOB.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The lead should generally be able to look since it is unlikely that there will be post activity that matters when the ball is that far out and at risk of being OOB.

You are going to miss one or the other. I tend to look out there as that is what everyone is looking at. And like you said, how much post action is going on when the ball is above the 3 point line and high away from the post? I will usually watch the line in that situation or be aware of how close the ball is to the line. Step back and open your view usually works for me. As stated before, this is the trade off with any situation where the fewer number of officials are used then what is used at the top levels.

Peace

[BillyMac]

IAABO mechanics, my little corner of Connecticut style:

When Trail is not across the basketline: Lead had frontcourt endline, and nearer sideline back to the division
line. Trail has nearer sideline, division line, and all three backcourt boundaries.

When Trail is across the basketline: Lead had frontcourt endline, and nearer sideline to the free throw line
Extended. Trail has nearer sideline, farther sideline above free throw line extended, division line, and all
three backcourt boundaries.

During transition, press, and press break, situations, the Lead, hanging back to help, will have out of bounds
responsibilities on the entire nearer sideline.