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Mon Mar 17, 2014, 07:48pm
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Verbal Obstruction?
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F1 spins and fakes a throw to the covering F4. R2 dives back into the base thinking there is a throw. F8 comes charging into "field" the ball that was never actually thrown. Defense starts yelling "third, third, third!" R2 thinks the ball is rolling to F8. He gets up to run to third where he is tagged out. Legal? 
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Mon Mar 17, 2014, 07:54pm
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Fake plays (aside from fake tags) are legal. Mimicking base coaches or talking directly to offensive personnel to fake them is not.
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"I don't think I'm very happy. I always fall asleep to the sound of my own screams...and then I always get woken up to the sound of my own screams. Do you think I'm unhappy?"
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Mon Mar 17, 2014, 08:50pm
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Mon Mar 17, 2014, 09:06pm
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I think the only examples in FED are where the defense says something that the offense would normally say.
It's unclear to me how far to extend that (if at all).
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Mon Mar 17, 2014, 09:22pm
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"I don't think I'm very happy. I always fall asleep to the sound of my own screams...and then I always get woken up to the sound of my own screams. Do you think I'm unhappy?"
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Mon Mar 17, 2014, 10:34pm
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This is a variation of the "Miami" play, and I got nothing to call in any rule set. I will need a case play or AR to consider this verbal obstruction in FED or any other rule set.
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Tue Mar 18, 2014, 06:40am
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Tue Mar 18, 2014, 07:02am
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Yelling "back, back!" is something a coach would say. I agree that mimicking base coaches is verbal instruction, but I don't think this is that. Yelling "third, third!" is something the defense would legitimately say. I don't think I'd call the original situation verbal obstruction. If the runner and his base coach don't know where the ball is and they fall for the defense simply acting out what they legitimately would do in an overthrow situation, then shame on them. Last edited by scrounge; Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 07:04am.
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Tue Mar 18, 2014, 08:55am
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Verbal obstruction
If a runner ran by a fielder camped under a fly ball and yelled "MINE" or something similar.
I have had a defensive coach yell "Walk" as the pitcher goes to his stretch.
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Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:13am
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2.22.1 SITUATION A: R1 attempts to steal second. F2, upon receiving the pitch, throws a pop-up to F6. F5 yells "get back, get back." R1 thinks B2 has hit a pop-up and starts back to first where he is tagged out.
RULING: This is verbal obstruction and R1 shall be awarded second base.
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Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:27am
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I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'” West Houston Mike
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Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:28am
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I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'” West Houston Mike
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Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:29am
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I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'” West Houston Mike
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Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:51am
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Most of the time.
You are correct, however, there is catcher's interference.
Rule 2.00 (Interference (a)) Comment: In the event the batter-runner has not reached first base, all runners shall return to the base last occupied at the time of the pitch. (b) Defensive interference is an act by a fielder that hinders or prevents a batter from hitting a pitch.
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