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Old Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:35pm
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Timing Play?

Situation: R1, R2, R3 1 out. Batter hits short fly ball to left, which is caught; runner tags and LF overthrows home, with the run scoring. On the over throw, R2 gets in a pickle between Home and 3B, eventually scoring on an over throw into left, and R1 being thrown out at 3B for the final out. An appeal to third on the initial runner leaving early is upheld. Any runs score?
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Old Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:04pm
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No. If a preceding runner makes the 3rd out for any reason, no trailing runs score.

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HOW A TEAM SCORES. APPROVED RULING: One out, Jones on third, Smith on second. Batter Brown flies out to
center. Two out. Jones scores after catch and Smith scores on bad throw to plate. But Jones, on appeal,
is adjudged to have left third before the catch and is out. Three outs. No runs.
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Old Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:39pm
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No. If a preceding runner makes the 3rd out for any reason, no trailing runs score.
What he said.
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Old Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:41pm
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Agree with the others. And this really isn't a timing play.

A timing play is when a runner tries to score just as the third out is being recorded on another runner, and that third out is not a force out, or an out on the batter before he reaches first safely. The "timing" of when that runner touches home (before or after the out) determines whether or not he scores.
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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:40am
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No runs score. This is not an example of a "TIME" play.
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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:19am
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No, he has said what he means.

For those of us with age it is called a "pickle."

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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:47am
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No, he has said what he means.

For those of us with age it is called a "pickle."

T
Seriously, if he isn't old enough to know this is a time honored baseball expression, maybe he isn't old enough to be moderator....

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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:32pm
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No, he has said what he means.

For those of us with age it is called a "pickle."

T
I'm aware of the slang term associated with a rundown.

Fired up this morning T?
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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:51pm
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I'm aware of the slang term associated with a rundown.

Fired up this morning T?
Johnny, if you are aware of the expression, then why post your comment?
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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:05pm
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Johnny, if you are aware of the expression, then why post your comment?
Exactly

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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:23pm
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No, he has said what he means.

For those of us with age it is called a "pickle."

T
I'm 68 and we never called it a pickle. It was either a rundown or a hot box.

So it may depend on where you live/lived.
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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:26pm
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I'm 68 and we never called it a pickle. It was either a rundown or a hot box.

So it may depend on where you live/lived.
What Rich said, but I'm not 68.
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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:32pm
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a time honored baseball expression
Not in my part of the country.

I'll make everybody happy and delete my post where I use the proper rule book terminology of a "rundown"

See:

2.00 Rundown
7.08b Comment
7.03a

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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:33pm
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No Johnny.

I felt you were condesending to the original poster.

By taking that attitude with him ("err, let me correct you to proper umpire argo . . .") you showed why guys like Ozzy and I sometimes have problems with younger people.

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Old Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:39pm
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No Johnny.

I felt you were condesending to the original poster.

By taking that attitude with him ("err, let me correct you to proper umpire argo . . .") you showed why guys like Ozzy and I sometimes have problems with younger people.

T

I maybe should've used a different tone. That's fair feedback. Point taken.
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