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Coach Bayer Fri Oct 12, 2012 08:35pm
Timing Play?
 
Situation: R1, R2, R3 1 out. Batter hits short fly ball to left, which is caught; runner tags and LF overthrows home, with the run scoring. On the over throw, R2 gets in a pickle between Home and 3B, eventually scoring on an over throw into left, and R1 being thrown out at 3B for the final out. An appeal to third on the initial runner leaving early is upheld. Any runs score?

GA Umpire Fri Oct 12, 2012 09:04pm
No. If a preceding runner makes the 3rd out for any reason, no trailing runs score.

Quote:
4.09
HOW A TEAM SCORES. APPROVED RULING: One out, Jones on third, Smith on second. Batter Brown flies out to
center. Two out. Jones scores after catch and Smith scores on bad throw to plate. But Jones, on appeal,
is adjudged to have left third before the catch and is out. Three outs. No runs.

rbmartin Fri Oct 12, 2012 09:39pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by GA Umpire (Post 858138)
No. If a preceding runner makes the 3rd out for any reason, no trailing runs score.
What he said.

Manny A Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:41pm
Agree with the others. And this really isn't a timing play.

A timing play is when a runner tries to score just as the third out is being recorded on another runner, and that third out is not a force out, or an out on the batter before he reaches first safely. The "timing" of when that runner touches home (before or after the out) determines whether or not he scores.

johnnyg08 Sat Oct 13, 2012 07:40am
No runs score. This is not an example of a "TIME" play.

Tim C Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:19am
johnny
 
No, he has said what he means.

For those of us with age it is called a "pickle."

T

Rita C Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:47am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 858158)
No, he has said what he means.

For those of us with age it is called a "pickle."

T
Seriously, if he isn't old enough to know this is a time honored baseball expression, maybe he isn't old enough to be moderator....:eek:

Rita:D

johnnyg08 Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:32pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 858158)
No, he has said what he means.

For those of us with age it is called a "pickle."

T
I'm aware of the slang term associated with a rundown.

Fired up this morning T?

RPatrino Sat Oct 13, 2012 01:51pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 858166)
I'm aware of the slang term associated with a rundown.

Fired up this morning T?
Johnny, if you are aware of the expression, then why post your comment?

Rita C Sat Oct 13, 2012 03:05pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPatrino (Post 858168)
Johnny, if you are aware of the expression, then why post your comment?
Exactly

Rita

Rich Ives Sat Oct 13, 2012 03:23pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 858158)
No, he has said what he means.

For those of us with age it is called a "pickle."

T
I'm 68 and we never called it a pickle. It was either a rundown or a hot box.

So it may depend on where you live/lived.

johnnyg08 Sat Oct 13, 2012 03:26pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 858176)
I'm 68 and we never called it a pickle. It was either a rundown or a hot box.

So it may depend on where you live/lived.
What Rich said, but I'm not 68.

johnnyg08 Sat Oct 13, 2012 03:32pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 858165)
a time honored baseball expression
Not in my part of the country.

I'll make everybody happy and delete my post where I use the proper rule book terminology of a "rundown"

See:

2.00 Rundown
7.08b Comment
7.03a

Talk to you later,
whipper snapper :D

Tim C Sat Oct 13, 2012 03:33pm
ô!ô
 
No Johnny.

I felt you were condesending to the original poster.

By taking that attitude with him ("err, let me correct you to proper umpire argo . . .") you showed why guys like Ozzy and I sometimes have problems with younger people.

T

johnnyg08 Sat Oct 13, 2012 03:39pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 858181)
No Johnny.

I felt you were condesending to the original poster.

By taking that attitude with him ("err, let me correct you to proper umpire argo . . .") you showed why guys like Ozzy and I sometimes have problems with younger people.

T

I maybe should've used a different tone. That's fair feedback. Point taken.


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