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Old Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:44pm
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Coach here with a question. Was watching an MLB game, can't recall which, and there was a play at the plate. BR hit a single to LF and the throw came home, but was up the line toward 3B. As the C moves to field the throw and attempt to make a play I notice the PU moving from behind the plate up the first base line in foul territory.

I'm not interested in slamming or questioning his positioning, but wanted to know when do you ideally make the decision on where you need to be to see the play? I know from reading some previous posts that you don't want to be moving when viewing a play if possible but, in cases like this where the throw may be not where you expect it to be, it seems like you almost have to be.

Guess I'm wondering a bit about the mechanics of when you decide to move to get in position and what dictates where you stand. Thanks in advance.
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Old Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:03pm
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A) You want to be somewhere where you can see tag (or catch), ball, and base.
B) You want to be somewhere where you do not affect the play.
C) You definitely move as the play develops (i.e. in your example when you see the throw off line - the spot you want to see the tag moves), and be still as late as possible.
D) Most of the time, angle is far more important than distance.
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Old Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:31pm
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Umpire mechanics are determined by umpire associations both local, national, regional and international. Where your particular umpire should have been, assuming he was wrong, is impossible to say without knowing how he was instructed by the league or assn he adheres.
The league or association? I think most people know the mechanics of the league or association he's referring to.
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Old Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:00pm
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The league or association? I think most people know the mechanics of the league or association he's referring to.
Thanks fir the replies MB. Meant MLB. Do you start on the baseline extended (third baseline in my example) then adjust?

Sorry for the basic questions, just always wondered.
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Old Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:22pm
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Thanks fir the replies MB. Meant MLB. Do you start on the baseline extended (third baseline in my example) then adjust?

Sorry for the basic questions, just always wondered.
Most experienced umpires will initially line themselves up on the point of the plate and let the play dictate where they move to make their call.

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Old Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:03pm
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Unless you're doing professional baseball where you can have legal collisions at the plate, you will see most amateur umpires who know what they're doing take plays at the plate from third base line extended.
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Old Mon Jul 30, 2012, 11:10am
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Unless you're doing professional baseball where you can have legal collisions at the plate, you will see most amateur umpires who know what they're doing take plays at the plate from third base line extended.
Umpire Clinics encourage Point of plate on throw from left field and 3BLX on throw from right field, because of the swipe tag.

When I began, I took everything from 1BLX but there were times when the catcher's body, runner's legs and dust cloud would make it hard to see a dropped ball after the tag. When the ball is thrown in and where the catcher sets allows you the opportunity to decide on one of the 3 choices.
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Old Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:35pm
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Unless you're doing professional baseball where you can have legal collisions at the plate, you will see most amateur umpires who know what they're doing take plays at the plate from third base line extended.
Not from left field or 3rd base!
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