Beards & Umpires

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Prove me wrong, or better yet, prove that anything in the Bible ever happened.

I thought you to be somewhat intelligent, until now. Even Austin knows better.

I agree with Steve though.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by kylejt

It's a commonly known fact, that present day Americans do not trust folks with facial hair.

"Commonly known fact" is code for "I really want it to be true so I'm just going to assume it is."

My personal experience is facial hair improved the trust coaches had in me significantly (because I no longer looked like I should be playing in the game) and had no appreciable effect on my career as an accountant.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

"Commonly known fact" is code for "I really want it to be true so I'm just going to assume it is."

Commonly known: I have no data, but I believe it.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by jicecone

I thought you to be somewhat intelligent, until now. Even Austin knows better.

I agree with Steve though.

Evolutionist or creationist?

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Evolutionist or creationist?

Realist!

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Well where was it going to spread to? We only had so many states. Slavery was a constant source of consternation among the northern and southern states. It wasn't the reason the first shot was fired to start the Civil War.

Yes I took plenty of history in school, and didn't sleep through it. That's why I know what I'm talking about, and you don't.

Uhhh, I don't know? Those territories in the west that were all about to become states?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yes but there were writings of his that made it clear he did not find Blacks as equals. Which at the end of the day is what racism is when you believe that they are not your equal as a white person.

But honestly who cares, this has nothing to do with the original post.

Peace

You're right, and I didn't mean to imply he thought that blacks were absolute equals.

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

So why the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 two years after the start of the war?

Mainly because he thought he could hurt the South economically by issuing the proclamation. The E.P. made it clear that abolition was a main goal of the war (So much for the argument about "The Civil War was not about slavery!"). It was issued because he thought it would help to win the war and reunite the country.

I never said Lincoln hated slavery and was an abolitionist, because neither were true. I said that the Civil War started in part because of slavery. The two are different.

[kylejt]

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by kylejt

So what are ya sayin'? Pretty subtle there Kyle!

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Uhhh, I don't know? Those territories in the west that were all about to become states?



You're right, and I didn't mean to imply he thought that blacks were absolute equals.



Mainly because he thought he could hurt the South economically by issuing the proclamation. The E.P. made it clear that abolition was a main goal of the war (So much for the argument about "The Civil War was not about slavery!"). It was issued because he thought it would help to win the war and reunite the country.

I never said Lincoln hated slavery and was an abolitionist, because neither were true. I said that the Civil War started in part because of slavery. The two are different.

The beginning of the end of the war was on this date in history, July 3, 1863, with Lee's folly of invading the North in Gettysburg, PA. and he was defeated soundly.

BTW-You're wrong in your assessment. The southern states DIDN"T want a strong central government. The Emancipation Proclamation only made the slaves in the Confederate states free. A lot good that did then.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Realist!

God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is no. As real as it gets right there.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is no. As real as it gets right there.

+1.

Anybody shocked?

[ozzy6900]

I love how I asked a simple question and got about 1/2 a page of actual answers with 3 1/2 pages of pure Bull$hit! You people are pathetic!

[Dave Reed]

Well, the very first post in this thread makes reference to ZZ Top. I guess the thread went off the rails right from the start!

In other words, one person's amusing aside is another person's pure Bull$hit.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

I love how I asked a simple question and got about 1/2 a page of actual answers with 3 1/2 pages of pure Bull$hit! You people are pathetic!

You get what you give...................