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ozzy6900 Sat Jun 30, 2012 07:07am
Beards & Umpires
 
How is your association about umpires sporting beards?
  1. Does your association allow them?
  2. Does your association request that they be a certain length?
  3. Does your association limit your assignments because you have a beard?
Obviously, beards have nothing to do with an umpire's knowledge or his calls. Although if the beard is similar to that of Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top), I suppose it could get into the way of your strike or out signal! :rolleyes:

johnnyg08 Sat Jun 30, 2012 08:14am
How many politicians wear beards?

It creates the perception of not being trustworthy.

Our association has no policy against it.

CT1 Sat Jun 30, 2012 08:39am
Our association only requires that facial hair be neatly trimmed.

johnnyg08 Sat Jun 30, 2012 08:57am
I have no problem working with an umpire w/ a beard, but when it is going to be 95 today, I hope it keeps him cool.

SanDiegoSteve Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:13am
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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 847839)

It creates the perception of not being trustworthy.
Like that notorious Jesus fellow.

MrUmpire Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:28am
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 847850)
Like that notorious Jesus fellow.
Not to mention Abraham Lincoln. Horribly untrustworthy.

MrUmpire Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:35am
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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 847834)
How is your association about umpires sporting beards?
  1. Does your association allow them?
  2. Does your association request that they be a certain length?
  3. Does your association limit your assignments because you have a beard?
1. Yes
2. "Neatly trimmed"
3. I don't have one but others do. It doesn't seem to have effected their schedule...they work top level assignments and get post season work.

JRutledge Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 847834)
How is your association about umpires sporting beards?
  1. Does your association allow them?
Association as no say over this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 847834)
  1. Does your association request that they be a certain length?
Look at #1.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 847834)
  1. Does your association limit your assignments because you have a beard?
That is a different issue. I am sure the people that assign want you to look neat and that can be a factor. But there is no rule that I am aware of that says yes or no a to such a thing other than looking professional. And there are so few umpires available I doubt that this is a deal breaker unless there are two equal guys and the one that looks the most professional is also available.

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 847834)
Obviously, beards have nothing to do with an umpire's knowledge or his calls. Although if the beard is similar to that of Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top), I suppose it could get into the way of your strike or out signal! :rolleyes:
You are right, but perception is reality to some.

Peace

Steven Tyler Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 847853)
Not to mention Abraham Lincoln. Horribly untrustworthy.
U S Grant was a drunkard. Plenty of shenanigans in his term in office.

rbmartin Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 847864)
U S Grant was a drunkard.
Yeah...A drunkard who kicked butt! By the way, it was terms not term. he was re-elected.

SanDiegoSteve Sat Jun 30, 2012 01:11pm
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Originally Posted by rbmartin (Post 847865)
Yeah...A drunkard who kicked butt! By the way, it was terms not term. he was re-elected.
Not to mention the General of the Army who took Lee's surrender in that little skirmish known as the Civil War.

dash_riprock Sat Jun 30, 2012 01:22pm
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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 847864)
U S Grant was a drunkard.
He's in good company. The history books are full of great men who remained great while drunk.

mbyron Sat Jun 30, 2012 01:38pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 847850)
Like that notorious Jesus fellow.
No evidence whatsoever that he had a beard.

Dave Reed Sat Jun 30, 2012 02:01pm
But reasonable to assume that he did have one while fasting 40 days and nights in the wilderness.

I'm no historian, but it seems likely to me that in those days most men of modest means didn't shave routinely, particularly in outposts like Israel..

mbyron Sat Jun 30, 2012 02:45pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Reed (Post 847874)
But reasonable to assume that he did have one while fasting 40 days and nights in the wilderness.

I'm no historian, but it seems likely to me that in those days most men of modest means didn't shave routinely, particularly in outposts like Israel..
As I said, no evidence whatsoever ... not counting speculation, inference, educated guessing, etc. etc.


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