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Old Thu Jun 21, 2012, 04:11pm
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I'm not just looking at the defense, nor just at the runner. I'm trying to see the whole play.

To NOT call OBS on a rundown, I need to see the runner veer from a path to the base in order to contact the fielder. Merely swinging around one way rather than another when changing directions won't do it. Merely stepping 1 step toward a fielder won't do it. Just as he's allowed to round a base, he's allowed to change directions as he pleases. He must clearly be running in a direction other than toward the base to merit a no-call.

From what I've observed, coaches who teach their runners to run into the fielder also teach their fielders how to clear the basepath after throwing the ball.
Sounds like we're saying very similar things. However, I can't see how you can say this and still have OBS in the OP. He didn't swing around one way or another - he turned, found the fielder, and lowered his shoulder into him.
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Old Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:18pm
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Sounds like we're saying very similar things. However, I can't see how you can say this and still have OBS in the OP. He didn't swing around one way or another - he turned, found the fielder, and lowered his shoulder into him.
If we're saying the same thing, cool.

The call in the video is umpire judgment. You don't like it, I can see how it was called OBS in real time. :shrug:

You have to admit it was close, and the call on the field was not as bad as we've seen in MLB this season.
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Old Thu Jun 21, 2012, 11:13pm
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Looks to me like the runner was watching the catcher, not the ball, and flung himself 90 degrees sideways at the catcher after he released the ball, no doubt in attempt to draw an OBS call, and it worked. Seems very clear IMHO, not close at all.

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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:26am
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The runner was clearly trying to draw an OBS call. Whether or not he was obstructed is not so clear.
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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:33am
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The runner was clearly trying to draw an OBS call. Whether or not he was obstructed is not so clear.
Just so. And the umpires were required to rule only on the latter issue; many folks here seem to think that the former issue determines the latter.
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