Detroit @ Boston foul tip that wasn't call...

[jwwashburn]

Ok, but if i am the 1BU...there is no way I am calling anything other than the out that the HPU already called unless I am SURE of something else. The guy at 1B guessed.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

Ok, but if i am the 1BU...there is no way I am calling anything other than the out that the HPU already called unless I am SURE of something else. The guy at 1B guessed.

The HPU called something? It looked like he was totally confused. Not sure why the 1BU could not see this or just make a call. Then again maybe he was sleeping like a lot of us do when nothing is going on at the plate. But this is why you have to concentrate and be engaged in the game.

Peace

[jwwashburn]

The HPU put up his fist.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

The HPU put up his fist.

It looked more like he was going to call and out and realized that the play was tighter than he anticipated. In other words, his actions were more routine and realized he might want to get another opinion to get it right. Well his partners did him no favors and I would not care what he "kind of" signaled, I would have called what I clearly saw after he comes from behind home plate and looking confused.

Peace

[jwwashburn]

But the 1BU did NOT clearly see the ball hit the ground. He obviously had no call that he could make without guessing.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

But the 1BU did NOT clearly see the ball hit the ground. He obviously had no call that he could make without guessing.

That is probably true. But that still does not make me wonder why he could not see this. Maybe there were other things obstructing his view. I honestly do not know or hold him so responsible. I just know that this should have been seen by someone and find it a curious miss. That being said we miss things and are never totally perfect. I also think Leyland overreacted as usual to a situation that is not always easy to see. And it is easy to see in slow motion with a close up view. But this is why you have to pay attention and stay alert because these plays become bigger not seen.

Peace

[Publius]

IMO, MLB got replay wrong from the start. In any sport, it should be like the NFL: you get a limited number of challenges, and there's something at stake if your challenge is incorrect.
In baseball, I like 3 challenges per game, with a fourth one granted if two are upheld. A strike is added to the count if the challenge is not upheld.

Hell, catch/no catch and fair/foul could be remedied by new book-rule awards. It wouldn't always be "what would've happened" but it would eliminate the lame arguments that nothing can be done.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

The HPU put up his fist.

PU did not make a call. In that situation, if he had a catch, he would have emphatically and repeatedly signalled and called "That's a catch! That's a catch!"

In the post-game interview, Welke said he thought he saw dust come up from the ball hitting the ground, but admitted that he was wrong. The fact that F2 had to reglove the ball probably added to his perception -- he thought he saw what normally happens in that circumstance: that the ball hit the ground.