Detroit @ Boston foul tip that wasn't call...

[jwwashburn]

But the 1BU did NOT clearly see the ball hit the ground. He obviously had no call that he could make without guessing.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

But the 1BU did NOT clearly see the ball hit the ground. He obviously had no call that he could make without guessing.

That is probably true. But that still does not make me wonder why he could not see this. Maybe there were other things obstructing his view. I honestly do not know or hold him so responsible. I just know that this should have been seen by someone and find it a curious miss. That being said we miss things and are never totally perfect. I also think Leyland overreacted as usual to a situation that is not always easy to see. And it is easy to see in slow motion with a close up view. But this is why you have to pay attention and stay alert because these plays become bigger not seen.

Peace

[Publius]

IMO, MLB got replay wrong from the start. In any sport, it should be like the NFL: you get a limited number of challenges, and there's something at stake if your challenge is incorrect.
In baseball, I like 3 challenges per game, with a fourth one granted if two are upheld. A strike is added to the count if the challenge is not upheld.

Hell, catch/no catch and fair/foul could be remedied by new book-rule awards. It wouldn't always be "what would've happened" but it would eliminate the lame arguments that nothing can be done.

[D Ray]

Pablius – What you out line is only a start. You propose to add a strike to the count if the challenge is not upheld. What is the penalty if the DEFENSE challenges, a ball added?

You propose three a game with the possibility of a fourth?? That is a possibility of eight reviews. How many “mistakes” do you think occur each MLB game?

If you want to follow the NFL, make it more strict. One challenge per game with one added if the first is correct. If any challenge is not upheld, the manager is ejected, and an out is either added (on offense) or subtracted (on defense). In exchange, you allow ANYTHING to be challenged, except for ball and strike calls on pitches and checked swings. Only one aspect of a play would be able to be reviewed.

The whole replay issue, especially in baseball, is a fool’s errand. Look at college football. They are still “tweaking” their system. For each problem to seek to solve with replay, you create at least one more.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by D Ray

The whole replay issue, especially in baseball, is a fool’s errand. Look at college football. They are still “tweaking” their system. For each problem to seek to solve with replay, you create at least one more.

The biggest problem with potential replay, the league will not spend the money to put the same camera angles at all games. So a play at certain bases will be missed or be inconclusive like football. But football has a clock and the game is going to eventually end. Baseball you have no idea when that takes place and play can continue after a close play. And if someone is called out by replay and then runners advance, then what will you do with those runners? I think this is why MLB has not gone to replay because it will open up an entire can of worms. In college basketball they were able to review things like elbow contact and if a player should be called for a Flagrant foul. All I heard was commentators complain about how long those things took or that they took place at all for review. I can see where if they get the call right on replay that the delays will be a constant conversation. It is not like baseball is going to enforce any other speed up rules that take place at other levels so that these delays will not affect how long a game will really take.

Peace

[Publius]

Originally Posted by D Ray

You propose three a game with the possibility of a fourth?? That is a possibility of eight reviews. How many “mistakes” do you think occur each MLB game?

Doesn't matter what I think; only what the manager thinks. I've seen three potentially reviewable plays in a game go against one team in MLB many times. The number can be whatever--the point is that there should be some risk for making a challenge.

I like the idea of two incorrect challenges resulting in an ejection and a fine for the manager.