runner returned to first after foul ball

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Why is windup different?

5.7 TIME OF PITCH
The time of pitch is defined as the moment the pitcher's movements commit him to deliver the
ball to the batter.

In a windup position, this is defined as the moment the pitcher begins the natural movement
associated with his delivery of the ball to the batter (i.e., the start of his windup or delivery).

From a set position, this is defined as the moment the pitcher begins the natural movement
associated with his delivery of the ball after the pitcher has come set with both hands together
in front of his body.

If the motion is associated with his delivery it is the start.

I was not disagreeing with whatshisname, I was merely adding to his comment, presenting a different scenario:

Here is what whatshisname said: If the runner attains the base before the time the pitcher starts his motion. He has legally acquired that base. The release of the pitch is non-relevant in this scenario.

My point was that the start of the motion for the Set position is when the pitcher brings his hands together, not when he delivers the ball. So, in the Set Position, R1 could stay at 2nd base, even if he arrived there AFTER the pitcher had started his motion, but BEFORE the TOP. So, his post should have read like this: If the runner attains the base before the Time of the Pitch. He has legally acquired that base. The release of the pitch is non-relevant in this scenario.

In the Set the start of the motion does not equal the TOP.