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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:26pm
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"At no time did the umpire verbally kill the play on the field." Quote MLB

Which means:

HE DIDN'T SAY NUTTIN!
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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:36pm
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"At no time did the umpire verbally kill the play on the field." Quote MLB

Which means:

HE DIDN'T SAY NUTTIN!
I think that's something that I can learn from and certainly others too. Hand motions are important part of what we do; however, the verbal communication is the determining factor. It's nice to see that verbalized by MLB.

In reading the article, I like what F2 said about learning to make the plays etc., that's what they have been taught since HS.

I also like what Jeff said about the players really reacting to the batter and not the umpire. Once they did that, and F2 followed through with the play, they were toast.

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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:58pm
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...however, the verbal communication is the determining factor. It's nice to see that verbalized by MLB.
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But they didn't say that. In fact the statement avoids saying what it takes to call time. It does however acknowledge that the mechanic was incorrect.
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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:16pm
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I guess from now on, continue running even after the umpire raises both hands because you never know if the umpire is going to say 'I really didn't mean it'.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:36am
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But they didn't say that. In fact the statement avoids saying what it takes to call time. It does however acknowledge that the mechanic was incorrect.
Not to belabor a point; however, he did state in his comments that

"At no time did the umpire verbally kill the play on the field.",

Just my inferences from that statement is where I made my conclusions.

Might not be right, but I'm stickin to it ....

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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:05am
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How many calls do we see signalled but not verbalized? Watch an MLB contest sometime and you may be surprised.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 08:07am
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How many calls do we see signalled but not verbalized? Watch an MLB contest sometime and you may be surprised.
Every can of corn. Every non-close play at first. Even many swinging strike threes. I think that's what irks me with this play. It's clear that the mechanics mean something. Yet they are being ignored here, when clearly those mechanics put a team in jeopardy.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 10:45am
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Every can of corn. Every non-close play at first. Even many swinging strike threes.
You forgot every fair batted ball. In fact, the mechanics are to not say anything.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:46am
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Every can of corn. Every non-close play at first. Even many swinging strike threes. I think that's what irks me with this play. It's clear that the mechanics mean something. Yet they are being ignored here, when clearly those mechanics put a team in jeopardy.
Your right Mike mechanics mean a lot and we are not ignoring this but, of all the people here jumping all over this, Baseball Umpires should know more than ANYONE, S#it happens and can relate personnaly to things like this.

Ever blow a call, start to make a safe signal and realize the runner is out, call a balk that wasn't, a foul ball that wasn't, fail to call batter interference, obstruction, miss a pitch, etc etc etc.

How many of those did you go back and change because everyone thought you should?

Yea, maybe the fact that the umpire didn't say "Time" or "Dead Ball" is a weak argument but, for those that can't accept that, how about "**** Happens" even at that level and move on.

I have seen dialogue frrom suspend these officials to throw them out of the league and everything else under the sun in articles and public forums. I come to this forum and think that maybe we just might have an understanding what transpired from our own experience and low and behold we have all the holier than thou officials who are acting like the new bride wearing white, getting married for the 7th time. If the players maintained or even came close to the perfection level of the officials, it would be a boring GAME.
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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:36pm
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"At no time did the umpire verbally kill the play on the field." Quote MLB

Which means:

HE DIDN'T SAY NUTTIN!
Doug Eddings would be proud.
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