Ejection

[biggravy]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

If you're working HS varsity baseball, and you need affirmative on the dumping the base runner, you might be in over your head.

I would agree with this BUT- In the last few years I have seen waaaay more "veterans" (guys repeating their first year for the fifteenth time) that allow this kind of behavior. It's a poor example, and I have no problem with an official posting here and being affirmed that, yes, there are plenty of officials who penalize unsportsmanklike behavior with the appropriate sanction. YMMV.

[tankmjg24]

Steve I agree with you that it seems like you are baiting the player if you do as the UIC suggested. I believe that it was a good ejection and given the situation again I will probably do the same as I did. There is no reason why a high school aged athlete should use profanity toward an official and not get reprimanded. Maybe now he will think twice before smarting off to a call. The sad part of this is that the play was not even close as he was clearly out.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by tankmjg24

The sad part of this is that the play was not even close as he was clearly out.

That's not sad at all. It's like a teaspoon of sugar with the medicine.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by biggravy

I would agree with this BUT- In the last few years I have seen waaaay more "veterans" (guys repeating their first year for the fifteenth time) that allow this kind of behavior. It's a poor example, and I have no problem with an official posting here and being affirmed that, yes, there are plenty of officials who penalize unsportsmanklike behavior with the appropriate sanction. YMMV.

I don't have a problem with his posting at all. I thought he let the coach be a bit of douche, but the last thing I would want to do is eject a coach. I've restricted two to the bench, but they were JV coaches and young. Plus, all it would done in the long run was hurt the fans, and both teams. Dumping a HS varsity coach is somewhat frowned upon by our association for various reasons, but we have so few problems with them. For the most part, they all come out, and address a call politely, and in a proper manner.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I don't have a problem with his posting at all. I thought he let the coach be a bit of douche, but the last thing I would want to do is eject a coach. I've restricted two to the bench, but they were JV coaches and young. Plus, all it would done in the long run was hurt the fans, and both teams. Dumping a HS varsity coach is somewhat frowned upon by our association for various reasons, but we have so few problems with them. For the most part, they all come out, and address a call politely, and in a proper manner.

Coming out and addressing us politely is much different than being a douche.

None of us want to dump a coach. However, if he needs to go, he needs to go.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by asdf

Coming out and addressing us politely is much different than being a douche.

None of us want to dump a coach. However, if he needs to go, he needs to go.

I amend my statement to read that the head coach was a whiny douche.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

the last thing I would want to do is eject a coach.

This is bad umpiring. This shouldn't be the last thing or the first thing you want to do. Your "wants" shouldn't come into play at all, just like on any other call. An ejection is merely another call you make, just like any other. If a runner is safe, it's your job to call it. If a coach ejects himself, it's your job to announce it. You shouldn't "want" anything in either direction here. Call what you see.

[gpdeppert]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

If a coach ejects himself, it's your job to announce it. You shouldn't "want" anything in either direction here.

This is the way I approach any ejection. I do not eject anyone -it is a self-inflicted wound. I just formalize.

Well said.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

This is bad umpiring. This shouldn't be the last thing or the first thing you want to do. Your "wants" shouldn't come into play at all, just like on any other call. An ejection is merely another call you make, just like any other. If a runner is safe, it's your job to call it. If a coach ejects himself, it's your job to announce it. You shouldn't "want" anything in either direction here. Call what you see.

I've never had, in my opinion, a good enough reason to eject a head coach, not that I wouldn't if necessary. We all know who the idiots are, you just have handle them a little different. I know how to shut them down.

I had one that gave me a very slight bump one time. I read him the riot act in front of everybody, but I did call his AD, and let him know what happened. I also reported it to my association president to let him know what the deal was.

Looking back I probably should have ejected him at that time because of an incident with his players earlier. But I was somewhat still "wet behind the ears" at the varsity level, and it also being my first year. However, he now walks the straight and narrow for the very most part. He now knows the repercussions that would have come with an ejection, and thanked me the next time I worked his team.

I've had two partners that ejected a head coach, and they both said it was more of a headache in the long run than they anticipated. They love the restriction rule now. The UIL doesn't have a lot of love for it's officials.

There's always three thing in some of these cases. He said, she said, and the truth.

[JR12]

The only ejection you'll regret is the one you don't make!!!

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

The UIL doesn't have a lot of love for it's officials.

That's a bit of an understatement. Talk about an organization deeming you a necessary evil.