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Old Sun Feb 05, 2012, 10:39am
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I fully understand Mike's concern, if heating up a bat would make it perform beyond it's ratings, and not just up to it.

Which begs the next question: Do testing facilities ever test at different temperatures? I'm guessing they don't.
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2012, 11:37am
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I fully understand Mike's concern, if heating up a bat would make it perform beyond it's ratings, and not just up to it.

Which begs the next question: Do testing facilities ever test at different temperatures? I'm guessing they don't.
Any testing lab that does'nt, certainlly isn't one I would want to certify my product though.

By the way, I did a 12 inning HS scrimmage yesterday and one team used wood bats and the other BBCOR certified alluminum. 75 deg for entire game and one school was State Champions last year and the other was fairly matched in talent. Not sure if it was all bat performance or early season player performance however this was not a slugging contest. Many players commented about getting good contact with BBCOR, seems to be more important with the new bats, rather than any type of contact. Just under 3 hours for entire scrimmage. Three of us rotated 4 innings each on the dish. If this is any indications of the upcoming season. It works for me.
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2012, 02:26pm
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I fully understand Mike's concern, if heating up a bat would make it perform beyond it's ratings, and not just up to it.

Which begs the next question: Do testing facilities ever test at different temperatures? I'm guessing they don't.
Begs the question is not the same as "makes me wonder" or "raises the question". Begs the question actually begs a specific question, one cannot just make up any old question that is being begged. The question that is being begged is "what is the support for your argument?"

Begs the question is used when an argument is circular and makes no sense or is invalid.

Person 1: "This food is tasty because it is delicious."
Person 2: "That begs the question."

Tasty and delicious basically mean the same thing. Saying that something is tasty because it is delicious is not a valid argument. This begs the question. Person 1 must better support their argument about why the food is tasty.
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2012, 07:14pm
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Begs the question is not the same as "makes me wonder" or "raises the question". Begs the question actually begs a specific question, one cannot just make up any old question that is being begged. The question that is being begged is "what is the support for your argument?"

Begs the question is used when an argument is circular and makes no sense or is invalid.

Person 1: "This food is tasty because it is delicious."
Person 2: "That begs the question."

Tasty and delicious basically mean the same thing. Saying that something is tasty because it is delicious is not a valid argument. This begs the question. Person 1 must better support their argument about why the food is tasty.
I beg your pardon.

(I wonder what your plate conferences are like)
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2012, 07:58pm
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I think it should be perfectly legal....

... Only if I can use it in between innings to warm my hands on a cold day when I have the plate. Other than that they should be illegal....
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 11:10am
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I beg your pardon.

(I wonder what your plate conferences are like)
Using "begs the question" improperly is just one of those common grammatical glitches, like saying, "I could care less", when you really mean, "I couldn't care less". Google the phrase. You'll find more than you ever wanted to know about it's usage.
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 11:15am
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Using "begs the question" improperly is just one of those common grammatical glitches, like saying, "I could care less", when you really mean, "I couldn't care less". Google the phrase. You'll find more than you ever wanted to know about it's usage.
Irregardless, I still want to know what his plate conferences are like.

(yeah, I know)

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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 11:32am
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Irregardless...
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Old Mon Feb 06, 2012, 03:33pm
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Same difference.
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2012, 03:55pm
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I fully understand Mike's concern, if heating up a bat would make it perform beyond it's ratings, and not just up to it.

Which begs the next question: Do testing facilities ever test at different temperatures? I'm guessing they don't.
You missed my point.
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