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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 04:33pm
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ASA Approved Bat Warmer Sleeve Official Site By PYROFLITE Microwaveable Bat Warmer

So are we saying this contraption is legal or illegal for NFHS baseball play in the spring of 2012?
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 04:41pm
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Artificial bat warming devices are illegal in FED baseball.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 04:56pm
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Well this device calls itself "natural" and "ficial" which I think are both the opposite of artificial. So is it legal then?
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:58pm
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:16pm
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Bat warmer = illegal...
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:19pm
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If the website is still claiming they are ASA approved they would be wrong. Batwarmers were illegal in ASA, then for a couple of years they allowed them, then after further testing they determined they did alter the hitting characteristics of the bat and they were outlawed again for 2012.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:47pm
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Well this device calls itself "natural" and "ficial" which I think are both the opposite of artificial. So is it legal then?
If the warming was "natural" then they wouldn't need a device. I have contacted the manufacturer and asked for paperwork from ASA with respect to their certification of this device. ASA, of course, isn't binding on Federation Baseball. I will note, however, that the 2012 ASA rule change appears to specifically prohibit this device.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:07pm
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Well this device calls itself "natural" and "ficial" which I think are both the opposite of artificial. So is it legal then?
The rule reads 1-3-5," No artficial or intentional means shall be used to control the temperature of the bat."

It certainly seems to me that if your going to heat a bag or whatever in the microwave and put the bat in it, it is not because you you love your bat so much you want it to have a warm feeling about you.

Then again, I have seen some strange things.
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Old Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:35am
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well this device calls itself "natural" and "ficial" which i think are both the opposite of artificial. So is it legal then?
no!
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Old Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:41am
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If the warming was "natural" then they wouldn't need a device.
Exactly. The only natural bat warmer is the player's body heat.
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Old Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:47am
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According to an email from the state office here in NC, Interpreters have been instructed that placing bats on the tin roof of the dugout is intentionally warming the bat and makes the bat illegal. So this device is clearly illegal for NFHS.
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Old Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:17am
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According to an email from the state office here in NC, Interpreters have been instructed that placing bats on the tin roof of the dugout is intentionally warming the bat . . . .
And just leaning them on the fence in the sun isn't?
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Old Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:21am
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Exactly. The only natural bat warmer is the player's body heat.
I'd say letting them sit in the sun is pretty natural. I had my kids either sit on the barrels, or keep them under their arm pits on cold nights. For day games, I made sure they were in the direct sunlight.
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Old Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:43am
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There are several places the coach can stick his bat that I would consider legal. At least one of them would likely result in the bat becoming warmer.
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