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Bart Giamatti was a good man. Mr Strybel didn't post his opinion(never mentioned it was), he committed libel unless he can prove that Giamatti was a homophobe. Someone who just throws things out there thinking that they are protected by the first amendment needs to make sure they can back up what they say. It's no different than saying you are a homophobe, SDS. Would you like someone saying that about you?
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Well, maybe he's in Britain.
![]() Bart Giamatti had a career as a university professor, where homophobia is vanishingly rare. I've never heard this rumor about him before, but I don't believe it in the least.
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I'm not a lawyer either, but I'm 100% positive from personal experience that your statement here is dead wrong.
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If reading a book is too much of a challenge, Google Dave Pallone. You will find numerous sites commenting on his firing and the homophobia the was pervasive in MLB at the time. Many sites include Pallone's own words. But, I suggest some of you read his dismissal letter before looking silly. In it, through the league attorney, A. Bartlett Giamatti cites a story from Pete Rose (who had run ins with Pallone on the field) regarding Pallone picking up a man at a Cincinnatti bar. The rumors were investigated by MLB but umtimately proved false. In firing Pallone in 1988, Giamatti stated, "We just don't feel you can handle the pressure from all the negative publicity." By inserting the alleged gay activity into the termination letter, the commssioner allowed for homophobia to prevail. At the time, Pallone was regarded as a solid umpire on the field. Giamatti was a moralist who held his charges to a high standard. We all know how he handled Pete Rose. I also want to point out the lunacy of calling Pallone a scab. He was a Minor League umpire who worked to be among the best. He wanted to work MLB baseball and had the opportunity when those umpires walked out thinking they would end the season. They didn't. After the strike, he was retained by MLB because he was good. He worked the 1983 Major League Baseball All-Star Game and the 1987 National League Championship Series so his talent on the field was considerably more than what is possessed by those here. Pallone worked at a time when umpires could get in the faces of players and managers. Google his run in with Rose. He was a lightning rod and paid the price. Back when the MiLB guys went on strike, I remember reading a piece by an SI writer. In it, he said that those who chose to cross the picket line were similar to Jackie Robinson. They were good enough but the door was closed and they wanted to live the dream. Those are his thoughts, not mine. While not a perfect comparison, it does allow for haters to deny that someone deserved to be there. Last edited by MikeStrybel; Mon Sep 19, 2011 at 01:44pm. |
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Lots of good men have been homophobic and homosexual. What's the point?
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You could have said, "Hey Mike, you might want to be careful saying that without proof, there could be legal repercussions." Instead, you lashed out and wished him financial harm and legal troubles in a venomous fashion. That sucks, buddy. ![]()
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