Pirates/Braves ending

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not convinced the catcher tagged the runner. Yes the throw beat him, but I see no direct evidence he tagged him as the glove hand never alters or moves has he sweeps through. It is possible he tagged him, but the replay does not show me 100%. One of the reasons I am not a fan of replay, because this is not a solid angle if you want to be sure. But in a game at my level this is likely going to be an out unless I clearly saw something that clearly showed a missed tag. No one said what we do is easy.

Peace

Jeff:

I agree with you. After I made my first post, I checked MLB.com and about 2/3rd of the way through the video there is a good replay angle and F2's sweep went over the runner's leg.

MTD, Sr.

[Rich]

There is one replay from the Pirates telecast (I was watching this live -- only because I'm a Phillies fan and wanted to see the Braves lose and because I was sneaking in a post-midnight workout) where it is 100% clear that the tag brushes the front leg of R3. It's Meals's job to see that OR it's his job to make the expected call there and not guess a miss.

After 600+ pitches and 6:39 and two ejections and 19 innings, I'm sure he was tired and fatigue could've played into the call. All the more reason to call the out on this play. And since the batter-runner face-planted 15 feet out of the box, it would've been an inning-ending double play.

[MD Longhorn]

I'd love to see such a replay - there is one replay where it appears there MAY have been a tag, but ball/glove/leg are all blocked by the catcher's right leg from the camera's POV. Other than that, I see no tag and no circumstantial evidence of a tag (other, perhaps, than the runner's reaction).

[Rich]

Pittsburgh Pirates: Did Jerry Meals Make the Worst Call in Recent Memory? | Bleacher Report

The embedded YouTube video -- go to 4:45 of the video, watch in fullscreen. Here's the look of the glove getting the leg. Let me try this. Immediately go to Full Screen:

‪Worst call in MLB history Pirates vs. Braves 2011‬‏ - YouTube

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Pittsburgh Pirates: Did Jerry Meals Make the Worst Call in Recent Memory? | Bleacher Report

The embedded YouTube video -- go to 4:45 of the video, watch in fullscreen. Here's the look of the glove getting the leg. Let me try this. Immediately go to Full Screen:

‪Worst call in MLB history Pirates vs. Braves 2011‬‏ - YouTube

You can't tell at ALL from that angle....

[Rich]

Stills:

You Be the Judge: Worst Call at Home Plate Ever At End of Pirates-Braves Game?

Said Meals after the game:
“I saw the tag, but he looked like he oléd him and I called him safe for that. I looked at the replays and it appeared he might have got him on the shin area. I’m guessing he might have got him, but when I was out there when it happened I didn’t see a tag."

Jerry needed to move to the right. The swipe tag surprised him.

I can't believe so many people are defending this. Meals calls the runner out, they go to the 20th inning and there's not a single person that says anything. Instead he guesses, incorrectly, and ends a Major League Baseball game.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Stills:

You Be the Judge: Worst Call at Home Plate Ever At End of Pirates-Braves Game?

Said Meals after the game:
“I saw the tag, but he looked like he oléd him and I called him safe for that. I looked at the replays and it appeared he might have got him on the shin area. I’m guessing he might have got him, but when I was out there when it happened I didn’t see a tag."

Jerry needed to move to the right. The swipe tag surprised him.

I can't believe so many people are defending this. Meals calls the runner out, they go to the 20th inning and there's not a single person that says anything. Instead he guesses, incorrectly, and ends a Major League Baseball game.

I was only defending it because EVERY angle I had seen showed a missed tag. None of the ESPN or MLB angles showed what you are showing here. Seeing this post, though, I agree he was out.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

You can't tell at ALL from that angle....

Really? You don't see the pants leg move on the tag?

[Rich]

Personally, I don't care about this play at all, with the exception that eliminating the expected call has finally reached this level -- where a MLB umpire is willing to make a "best guess" on a call where he got straight lined a bit rather than take all the pieces of evidence in front of him and realize that the ball beat the runner by a mile and missing an actual tag here is 10000000000x worse than calling R3 out on a swipe tag that *might* have missed.

How many of us would've given a quick little fist pump on our field and gone on to the next inning and not thought twice about it?

[JRutledge]

The video you show Rich is a little distorted and does not completely confirm what I am looking for, but then again that is why I said I see why the umpire called the play the way he did. I would rather see that angle in HD to see if there was a touch. That was never the angle I saw in the highlight package that was not on ESPN. The centerfield angle looked like a miss when you look for any type of contact.

Peace