Throwing the Bat - LL

[dileonardoja]

You cannot call some one out for throwing a bat. PERIOD. It is protestable and the protesting team should win. DON"T DO IT; it only perpetuates the myth.

Warn the player, if they do it again, Eject. At the LL ages don't make a big deal about the ejection. Just tell the manager the player is removed from the game. At this age I would (my opinion) keep the warnings to individual players.

[MD Longhorn]

I await further replies... but if all that is accurate, I didn't do anything incorrectly, except perhaps the final warning...

The problem arose when, after 1 such throw I asked the coach to remind his player to be less careless with the bat. When the very next batter plunked the catcher with a bat, I went to the head coach in earshot of the dugout and told him, "Coach, that's the 2nd batter in a row that's thrown a bat. Please remind them not to do that." He did so...

Very next batter threw one to the fence. When the play ended, I went over, stood at the bat, got coach's attention so that he saw where it landed. He was pretty vocal in admonishing his team at that point.

But ... the very NEXT batter did it as well. 4 in a row. After the play ended, I told the coach, loud enough for the dugout to hear - coach, next flung bat is ejected. Period. Someone's going to get hurt.

Miraculously, that somehow fixed the problem.

[kylejt]

Our guidance from Williamsport is warn, and eject.

Now the problem is that an ejection carries with it a one game suspension, and most level headed folks think the suspension is pretty harsh for a non-intentional act. What most do is warn the individual, then tell the coach to pull him from the lineup.

But four in a row it pretty odd(and spooky), and I think your proclamation was warrented. Hell, it worked, didn't it?

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by kylejt

What most do is warn the individual, then tell the coach to pull him from the lineup.

What if this doesn't match minimum-play rules? Let's say VT's lead-off hitter throws the bat on the first at-bat. Team bats around and he does it again. You have coach pull him from the lineup.

VT wins, but HC protests (or whatever you do) that minimum-play wasn't completed on VT's lead-off.

[kylejt]

It's the same as a kid coming out of the game for an injury. No penalty for missing MPR.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by kylejt

It's the same as a kid coming out of the game for an injury. No penalty for missing MPR.

You're telling a coach to pull a kid from his lineup, but it's not considered an ejection? Odd.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Our guidance from Williamsport is warn, and eject.

Now the problem is that an ejection carries with it a one game suspension, and most level headed folks think the suspension is pretty harsh for a non-intentional act. What most do is warn the individual, then tell the coach to pull him from the lineup.

But four in a row it pretty odd(and spooky), and I think your proclamation was warrented. Hell, it worked, didn't it?

If your guidance is warn then eject, what are people doing requesting the player be pulled from the lineup? If the player was warned, then it is an ejection - plain and simple. Why are people complicating this simple procedure?

Warn then eject!

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Why are people complicating this simple procedure?

Because it's Little League. Almost as bad as Fed.

[kylejt]

Ejection is harsh for a nonvoluntary act, as it carries the one game suspension.

"Coach, number seven is done for the day. You pull him, or I eject him. Your choice".

And if a coach pulls him, and tries to reenter him later in the game, eject the coach.

It's pretty simple. No need to go Ozzy on the little kids.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by kylejt

And if a coach pulls him, and tries to reenter him later in the game, eject the coach.

You're ejecting the coach for what exactly, a legal substitution? If you don't want the player to continue to participate in that game, eject him. Otherwise don't. But you have no authority to demand a substitution of a player who has not been ejected.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Ejection is harsh for a nonvoluntary act, as it carries the one game suspension.

"Coach, number seven is done for the day. You pull him, or I eject him. Your choice".

And if a coach pulls him, and tries to reenter him later in the game, eject the coach.

It's pretty simple. No need to go Ozzy on the little kids.

Really? You have direction and you choose not to use it so that makes you a total fool. This is why LL is so F'd up because you have rules and no one follows them.

And you can kiss my back side with that comment!