Dead Ball?

[mbyron]

Yes. Dead-ball strike, batter cannot advance.

[MD Longhorn]

Please, for got's sake, tell us the umpire didn't give this runner 1st or allow anyone to advance (or worse... say "Hands are part of the bat.")

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Please, for got's sake, tell us the umpire didn't give this runner 1st or allow anyone to advance (or worse... say "Hands are part of the bat.")

Well, I can say that you got 1/2 of your wish. Runners advanced, BR allowed to stay on 1st. Since the ball didn't hit the BR's hands no chance to break that chestnut out.

I should have protested, but live and learn.

[MD Longhorn]

Here's an easy thing to remember.

Always. 100% of the time. No exceptions: When the batter is hit by the pitch (no matter where, and no matter what else was happening), the ball is dead. Period.

Start with that, and then rule on the pitch. Ball? HBP? Strike in the zone (had this just 2 weeks ago!)? Swinging strike?

But start with --- the ball is dead. The rest becomes obvious after that.

[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Please, for got's sake, tell us the umpire didn't give this runner 1st or allow anyone to advance (or worse... say "Hands are part of the bat.")

this play happen to our crew in a DI game on sat.. and yes the 3rd base coach says " but it hit him in the hands" and I said so? " but the hands are part of the bat" and I told him, if you go to the store and buy a bat, do the hands come with it".. he just shrugged and said your right...LOL

[BretMan]

That's an old saw and I guess it's good that he bought it. Personally, this kind of explanation isn't the kind I like to give. It's kind of a smart a$$ answer and often the coach will take it that you're just being a smart a$$.

I prefer a more professional answer.

Coach: But the hands are part of the bat.

Me: No, that is incorrect, By rule, the hands are not part of the bat. They are part of the batter.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by BretMan

By rule, the hands are not part of the bat. They are part of the batter.[/I]

Don't say that - he'll go looking for the rule that says it and won't find and call you names.

[BretMan]

Well then, if he calls me names he's gone!

And I will eject him with content that I have enforced the rule properly and that I gave the coach a professional, straightforward explanation of the rule and how it is interpreted, without having to resort to cute little smart a$$ retorts.