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Old Fri May 20, 2011, 02:57am
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Let's ignore the abandonment rule that cookie mentioned. That rule in and of itself would be the third out, but I have another way to get it.

It's based on one question: Was there at least one member of your team between the foul lines at all times? If so, F5's action of taking the ball and touching the base is an appeal for me, and I'm getting the third out.

Either way, you need to protest. Your protest should include both examples on reasons the third out should have been upheld. The best thing that can happen is you get the win and the umpire learns something.
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Old Fri May 20, 2011, 06:34am
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Let's ignore the abandonment rule that cookie mentioned. That rule in and of itself would be the third out, but I have another way to get it.

It's based on one question: Was there at least one member of your team between the foul lines at all times? If so, F5's action of taking the ball and touching the base is an appeal for me, and I'm getting the third out.

Either way, you need to protest. Your protest should include both examples on reasons the third out should have been upheld. The best thing that can happen is you get the win and the umpire learns something.
No, he doesn't need to protest. He needs to chalk it up as something that happens in games involving 10-year-olds and *move on*.
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Old Fri May 20, 2011, 08:05am
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No, he doesn't need to protest. He needs to chalk it up as something that happens in games involving 10-year-olds and *move on*.
I agree in general. However, it's worth bringing to the attention of the board that they have 1 umpire calling abandonment outs at 10U and another letting them return without liability to be put out. For consistency sake, this should be brought to UIC's attention.

But I agree - protesting a 10U league game? Really? Tourney or playoffs, ok - select, ok. But league? Learn and move on.
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Old Thu Jun 09, 2011, 03:54pm
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"Winning on an appeal is like kissing your sister..." I'm going to use that.
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Old Fri May 20, 2011, 06:59am
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It's based on one question: Was there at least one member of your team between the foul lines at all times? If so, F5's action of taking the ball and touching the base is an appeal for me, and I'm getting the third out.
What kind appeal would that be, missed base or retouch?

I agree with Rich: the lesson here is to move on, keep better track of the outs in future, and not turn this into a federal case. It's 10YO's for cryin' out loud.
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Old Fri May 20, 2011, 07:49am
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What kind appeal would that be, missed base or retouch?

I agree with Rich: the lesson here is to move on, keep better track of the outs in future, and not turn this into a federal case. It's 10YO's for cryin' out loud.
I too am unsure what you would be appealing here.

And with 10 year-olds, win or lose, we're still going to DQ afterwards.
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Old Fri May 20, 2011, 08:03am
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It's based on one question: Was there at least one member of your team between the foul lines at all times? If so, F5's action of taking the ball and touching the base is an appeal for me, and I'm getting the third out.
An appeal of ... what? Not being on the base? This is not an appealable transgression. Either the runner is out when they enter the dugout, or he's simply not on the base and must be tagged. There's no appeal at all here.
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Old Thu Jun 02, 2011, 02:41pm
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Let's ignore the abandonment rule that cookie mentioned. That rule in and of itself would be the third out, but I have another way to get it.

It's based on one question: Was there at least one member of your team between the foul lines at all times? If so, F5's action of taking the ball and touching the base is an appeal for me, and I'm getting the third out.

Either way, you need to protest. Your protest should include both examples on reasons the third out should have been upheld. The best thing that can happen is you get the win and the umpire learns something.
If the umpire had already declared "Time" before the 3rd baseman picked up the ball and touched 3rd, would that not be an illegal appeal, making the runner automatically safe?

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If the umpire had already declared "Time" before the 3rd baseman picked up the ball and touched 3rd, would that not be an illegal appeal, making the runner automatically safe?
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Old Thu Jun 02, 2011, 04:57pm
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No.
You mean yes. As in "Yes, that would not be an illegal appeal, making the runner automatically safe."
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Old Fri Jun 03, 2011, 08:05am
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You mean yes. As in "Yes, that would not be an illegal appeal, making the runner automatically safe."
Maybe. Or Maybe Not.
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