Mixing the Set and Windup Positions

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

As I stated "I do not want" not "I am going to prevent this from happening".

Fair enough, but I thought the language (particularly the first "allow") I highlighted was a bit too authoritative for a coach. At this age group (I work basketball, so there may be "cultural" differences), I get coaches who think they can coach the officials as well, and that doesn't go over well with me.

[Coach Dykhoff]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Fair enough, but I thought the language (particularly the first "allow") I highlighted was a bit too authoritative for a coach. At this age group (I work basketball, so there may be "cultural" differences), I get coaches who think they can coach the officials as well, and that doesn't go over well with me.

I voice my concerns when I feel they are wrong but do not coach them (That is what their Head Umpire is for). And sorry for sounding authoritative, that was not my intent.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

(That is what their Head Umpire is for)

Isn't he the guy with the dirty shin guards? Sorry, couldn't help myself. I'm so out of control.

[Coach Dykhoff]

Haha

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

I voice my concerns when I feel they are wrong but do not coach them (That is what their Head Umpire is for). And sorry for sounding authoritative, that was not my intent.

The line between the two isn't that thick, but I'll say it doesn't seem like you crossed it.

[TussAgee11]

All depends on how you want to define facing the batter. Is it his body that needs to be facing? His face?

Frankly, I'm not taking that end of the stick. Its most certainly not a balk as he is not doing anything to violate 8.05. No penalty set forth in 8.01 so if its anything its simply a "don't do that" but in reality, I don't really see a problem with what is described in the OP.

[bob jenkins]

As described, I agree with the Coach. When a MLB pitcher takes the mound (and that's who the rules are written for; other leagues jsut use them), "everyone knows" whether the pitcher is in the set or the wind-up position. If F1 was in a set and stepped as described, it would be a balk. IF F1 was in the wind-up and moved as described and then stopped, it would be a balk.

It's an issue at lower levels because not "everyone knows" what position F1 is in. So, NCAA and FED have specific rules on the foot placement that define the position.

[Coach Dykhoff]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

I voice my concerns when I feel they are wrong but do not coach them (That is what their Head Umpire is for).

Stated again.