Mixing the Set and Windup Positions

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It seems like he responded in the only appropriate manner after being told by the umpire; he ran all over the pitcher in question.

I agree. It seems as though there was a lot of negativity to the Coach's questions on this, or maybe I'm just more sensitive to it. Either (or both) might have something to do with the activities here of the past week or so.

[Coach Dykhoff]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I agree. It seems as though there was a lot of negativity to the Coach's questions on this, or maybe I'm just more sensitive to it. Either (or both) might have something to do with the activities here of the past week or so.

I just think you all hate rats

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

I just think you all hate rats

Rats, yes; Coaches, no. The two are not necessarily synonymous.

[Coach Dykhoff]

I am a coach, but not for my childs team (I don't have any). Does that make me a rat?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

I am a coach, but not for my childs team (I don't have any). Does that make me a rat?

It's not whether you coach but how. Do you cheat, lie to gain an advantage, or otherwise try to manipulate the umpires and the game for the sake of winning?

Do you do any of that, shrug, and justify it with, "it's just part of the game"?

[Coach Dykhoff]

I can't say I do anything like that.

I coach the game the way it is suppose to be played.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

I can't say I do anything like that.

I coach the game the way it is suppose to be played.

I don't know ... trying to correct the other team's pitcher and getting upset that the umpire wouldn't coach the kid sounds a little ratty to me. Jury's still out.

Not to mention your first post and someone else's last post timing...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

I can't say I do anything like that.

I coach the game the way it is suppose to be played.

All well and good, but there are coaches who claim their unethical behavior is just part of the way it's supposed to be played. Poor ethics in the name of gamesmanship. Happens in all sports, we just have a different name for it in basketball.

[Coach Dykhoff]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I don't know ... trying to correct the other team's pitcher and getting upset that the umpire wouldn't coach the kid sounds a little ratty to me. Jury's still out.

I called time to ask a question about the situation. I never said anything to the Umpire after him giving me the answer (Prior to the question being asked). I never tried to correct the pitcher at all. I could have went to the coach and voiced my concern but I didn't (Should have).

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Not to mention your first post and someone else's last post timing...

I have no clue what this means.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

I called time to ask a question about the situation. I never said anything to the Umpire after him giving me the answer (Prior to the question being asked). I never tried to correct the pitcher at all. I could have went to the coach and voiced my concern but I didn't (Should have).

Why should you have? Seems to me the best way to teach this lesson you wanted to teach was the way you did it; taking advantage of it.

[Coach Dykhoff]

I have played many years of baseball and as a coach I feel I should coach everyone (Wierd I know). Even if I see someone on the other team doing something incorrectly I want to correct them, but don't because I don't want to show up their coach. I coach youth baseball to teach them for the next level. If they don't learn what they have to learn prior to the next level they are behind the power curve. Maybe this is why I am a volunteer coach in a league that I don't have a kid in.

I am also one of those coaches that teaches my kids by showing them. I do sliding practice, diving practice, infield practice etc. at practice with the kids. I don't like just telling them and getting on them when they do it wrong because the misunderstood me. If I show them there is not much misunderstanding about that.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

I called time to ask a question about the situation. I never said anything to the Umpire after him giving me the answer (Prior to the question being asked). I never tried to correct the pitcher at all

Just going by your own words: "However when I tried to correct the situation the Umpire made me look like an *** and didn't correct it himself."

I could have went to the coach and voiced my concern but I didn't (Should have).

Should have? No, you shouldn't have - but you've made my point for me.

I have no clue what this means.

Maybe you do, maybe you don't... time will tell.

[DG]

I have a lot of stolen bases on 2nd pitch after runner sees it with this move, but no balks.

[DBull]

Originally Posted by Coach Dykhoff

I have played many years of baseball and as a coach I feel I should coach everyone (Wierd I know). Even if I see someone on the other team doing something incorrectly I want to correct them, but don't because I don't want to show up their coach. I coach youth baseball to teach them for the next level. If they don't learn what they have to learn prior to the next level they are behind the power curve. Maybe this is why I am a volunteer coach in a league that I don't have a kid in.

I am also one of those coaches that teaches my kids by showing them. I do sliding practice, diving practice, infield practice etc. at practice with the kids. I don't like just telling them and getting on them when they do it wrong because the misunderstood me. If I show them there is not much misunderstanding about that.

You are just the kind of coach that I would want coaching my kids. Active, knowledgeable, and a desire that is lacking in most volunteer coaches. I also admire your desire to learn the rules of the game; another thing that most volunteer (and pro) coaches will not do. But, please remember that umpires also know the rules (for the most part), and the majority of them don’t like to have coaches holding rules clinics during the game.

[TwoBits]

After reading several of your recent posts, Coach Dykhoff, I'd say you are doing your kids a great service teaching them fundamentals and the correct rules. However, one more thing they (and you) will need to understand is that, in a lot of rec ball league's umpires only know what their own fathers have taught them years ago, and that information can be incorrect. You will get nowhere trying to correct them.