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Old Wed Sep 08, 2010, 07:03pm
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No thread about Bob Davidson ejecting a fan?

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Old Wed Sep 08, 2010, 07:37pm
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First I've Seen of it

My son and I watched the highlights......quite entertaining!
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Old Wed Sep 08, 2010, 07:47pm
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Maybe he needed more material for his book...

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Old Wed Sep 08, 2010, 09:42pm
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Davidson is a cartoon

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Old Wed Sep 08, 2010, 10:03pm
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To be fair, do we know what he ejected him for?

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Old Wed Sep 08, 2010, 11:20pm
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To be fair, do we know what he ejected him for?
Supposedly, a homophobic comment: Davidson says he ejected fan because of slur - Welcome to Charter.net
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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 11:37am
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I'm sorry. I dont see anything here directing the umpire to police the language of the fans unless it is impeding the game in some manner. And please dont use the "(c) Each umpire has authority to rule on any point not specifically covered in these rules." argument. What's next , the umpire dictating the price the vendor asks for peanuts?
Unless the language is in some way making it impossible to play or officiate the game, let the police and stadium authorities excercise crowd control, Umpires take care of what happens on the field.
I'm with you. I say let it go and let the game's natural elements police it.

The offended player and his teammates each have several bats at their disposal, and uncommon physical attributes. Let them take to the stands and police the situation. Let the umpires tend to on-field matters.

Sounds absurd, doesn't it? Well, it is.

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Sometimes you have to do, what you have to do. At least Davidson has enough brass to take control of a situation. Something the stadium security didnt want to do.

Too bad about what the rules said or didn't say, he gets my vote for "Umpire of the week."There are way too many IDIOTS out there that think that just because they have first amendment rights, they can abuse anyone anytime and justify it with, "thats my constiutional right".

From a baseball fan who likes to sit and enjoy a game, I say,

GOOD JOB, DAVIDSON
There are seven words you can't say on television, and there are a few words you can't say at a ballgame and f@&&ot's one of them. If I were to hear a racial or ethnic or anti-Semitic or homophobic or similar slur from a spectator at any level, I would have them removed instantly, period. The game would not be respected if its participants weren't protected from that brand of inhumanity and I am there partly, if not chiefly to make sure that the game is respected. And it goes beyond the confines of respecting the mere rules. What makes the MLB setting any different?

I originally jumped to brand this latest act as another of Davidson's comic injections. I now view it as courageous and highly respectable. Yadier Molina is a good young man and a credit to the game. Davidson's policing of that outrageous incident involving him is commendable.

Nothing else occurred because of his actions. That's the point, here.

GOOD JOB, DAVIDSON, INDEED!!
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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 12:38pm
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The umpire has total authority to manage the game. If the fan was causing a problem, then the Security folks should have handled it. Since they didn't, Davidson is totally within his right to have that fan removed.

Aren't we all getting a little tired of the jerks that learn the rules from idiots such as Tim McCarver, and think they can call balls and strikes from 200 ft away?

I do find that my tolerance for chirping decreases as the season nears the end and understand why Davidson would have this drunken, loud mouthed jerk ejected so that he could no longer interfere with the game.
I think we can all agree (perhaps some will not) that this was a special case that required special action, and that the slur went way beyond mere chirping. One shouldn't be reluctant to step in immediately in such a case, nor should he feel it is not within the scope of his duties to do so. I suppose there are umpires who lack the instincts and fortitude to step in, but most are instinctive and courageous.

Bob Davidson is now their example of how a slur is handled.

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nor should he feel it is not within the scope of his duties to do so.
Except that it isn't.
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Old Fri Sep 10, 2010, 03:36pm
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nor should he feel it is not within the scope of his duties to do so.

mbcrowder: Except that it isn't.

Why quibble over the minor details that the umpire has no authority, no training and no business doing this?
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Old Fri Sep 10, 2010, 06:03pm
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UTT be a little careful . . . here in Portland last summer we had one of our better college umpires work more than 25 games in the PCL . . . and that's AAA level baseball.

I also know of a few guys that post here that are in towns with AA teams and they have also been asked to fill in.

I filled in in the California Long A in the '80s and did 25 games.

ALTHOUGH Washburn shows his true colors and admits to scabbing games in his latest post.

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Old Fri Sep 10, 2010, 06:24pm
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UTT be a little careful . . . here in Portland last summer we had one of our better college umpires work more than 25 games in the PCL . . . and that's AAA level baseball.

I also know of a few guys that post here that are in towns with AA teams and they have also been asked to fill in.

I filled in in the California Long A in the '80s and did 25 games.

ALTHOUGH Washburn shows his true colors and admits to scabbing games in his latest post.

T
That's right Tim. I showed my true colors by working games that no one else wanted to work. I showed my true colors by saying that I did something that was the 100% right thing to do.

You show your true colors by calling me a name like a school child instead of actually having the discussion. The same reason that union thugs want Card Check...to force people to do what they want instead of persuading them with logic and reason-because theere is no logic and reason to your case.

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Old Fri Sep 10, 2010, 06:43pm
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That's right Tim. I showed my true colors by working games that no one else wanted to work. I showed my true colors by saying that I did something that was the 100% right thing to do.

You show your true colors by calling me a name like a school child instead of actually having the discussion. The same reason that union thugs want Card Check...to force people to do what they want instead of persuading them with logic and reason-because theere is no logic and reason to your case.

You repeatedly called Davidson a cartoon but when someone calls you a name, they're like a school child.
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Old Fri Sep 10, 2010, 07:03pm
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UTT be a little careful . . . here in Portland last summer we had one of our better college umpires work more than 25 games in the PCL . . . and that's AAA level baseball.

I also know of a few guys that post here that are in towns with AA teams and they have also been asked to fill in.

I filled in in the California Long A in the '80s and did 25 games.

ALTHOUGH Washburn shows his true colors and admits to scabbing games in his latest post.

T
I understand what you are saying and know that there are fill ins. However, they are not low level college and HS umpires.
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Old Fri Sep 10, 2010, 11:17pm
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I understand what you are saying and know that there are fill ins. However, they are not low level college and HS umpires.
You're right about the fill-ins. I think it is safe to say that many of the higher levels umpires more than likely refused to cross the picket line when asked. Therefore, they were forced to make do with the few low rent scumbags they could scrounge up.

Hell, they probably hired them over the phone.
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