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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 02:57pm
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Jrutledge, that is absolutely fine in a High School game-I have done the very same thing a few times over the years. I even dumped a PA announcer once.

What Davidson did was ludicrous...and he did it with the purpose of being noticed. Worried about Yadier Molina climbing into the stands? Give me a break.
Well I do not know what MLB procedures and I honestly do not care what they are. Just saying what I am going to do. Procedures from MLB might be different and might had a different way to handle these situations. And if you have never seen anyone go up to the the stands before, you must have missed the Artest incident in Detroit and a later incident in Chicago with another player. Players have and will go up into the stands and confront fans. I would rather do something immediately than have a riot on my hands later.

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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 03:07pm
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Well I do not know what MLB procedures and I honestly do not care what they are. Just saying what I am going to do. Procedures from MLB might be different and might had a different way to handle these situations. And if you have never seen anyone go up to the the stands before, you must have missed the Artest incident in Detroit and a later incident in Chicago with another player. Players have and will go up into the stands and confront fans. I would rather do something immediately than have a riot on my hands later.

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Ron Artest had a beer thrown at him. There is an enormously high liklihood that guy would have been arrested immediately in that situation. If Miller Park and Major League Baseball say it is someone else's job to police drunkien fans...then it is someone else's job to police drunken fans.

Bob Davidson is not a hero...he is a buffoon. This was all about him performing for the camera.
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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 03:41pm
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Ron Artest had a beer thrown at him. There is an enormously high liklihood that guy would have been arrested immediately in that situation. If Miller Park and Major League Baseball say it is someone else's job to police drunkien fans...then it is someone else's job to police drunken fans.

Bob Davidson is not a hero...he is a buffoon. This was all about him performing for the camera.
I guess that settles it for me. You seem to have all the info on the situation.
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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 03:51pm
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Which part did I get wrong?
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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 06:07pm
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Which part did I get wrong?
Naw, maybe this one's the most ridiculous.
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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 04:16pm
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Ron Artest had a beer thrown at him. There is an enormously high liklihood that guy would have been arrested immediately in that situation. If Miller Park and Major League Baseball say it is someone else's job to police drunkien fans...then it is someone else's job to police drunken fans.

Bob Davidson is not a hero...he is a buffoon. This was all about him performing for the camera.
You are making assumptions I cannot make. I do not know Bob D or know his character. I have never met the man or know what makes him tick. I would never claim why someone is doing something from afar.

Also I have been in much smaller confines as an official and the people that are involved in security do not hear things they are sometimes closer than those on the court or field. And this is not about being drunk, this is about saying something inappropriate that is heard. He had a right to take care of this himself unless you know of some policy by MLB that says he cannot point out such action.

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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 05:10pm
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It's a small fraternity in the Bigs and if a fan is messing with a player, the umps are going to take care of it, if they have to. Molina is back there keeping Davidson safe and Davidson is going to take care of him over a dumbass jerk in the first row.

I didn't realize that JWWashburn was a scab. That explains alot of his posts.
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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 06:08pm
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It's a small fraternity in the Bigs and if a fan is messing with a player, the umps are going to take care of it, if they have to. Molina is back there keeping Davidson safe and Davidson is going to take care of him over a dumbass jerk in the first row.

I didn't realize that JWWashburn was a scab. That explains alot of his posts.
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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 06:48pm
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By both tradition and the written rule, an umpire's authority does not extend to fans unless they trespass on the field.

As one major leauge umpire said, "Only Bob."

MLB will either fine Davidson, or issue a statement supporting his action as warranted in an "unique" situation. If he is fined, it will most likely not be made public as is MLB's custom.

In either case, I'll wager this is his last season.
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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 08:03pm
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I'll take that wager. How about a beer at the place of your choosing?
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Old Thu Sep 09, 2010, 11:00pm
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I didn't realize that JWWashburn was a scab. That explains alot of his posts.
Being a scab would be a step up in class for him.

The Unabomber "manifesto" makes more sense than the vast majority of his posts.
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Old Fri Sep 10, 2010, 11:23am
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Being a scab would be a step up in class for him.

The Unabomber "manifesto" makes more sense than the vast majority of his posts.
I do not believe I have ever had the honor of you personally attacking me, Mr Tyler. I consider this validation that my posts are coherent and my opinions correct.

With you on the other side, I can be assured I am on the right track.

Thank you for you guidance.

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Old Fri Sep 10, 2010, 11:20am
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It's a small fraternity in the Bigs and if a fan is messing with a player, the umps are going to take care of it, if they have to. Molina is back there keeping Davidson safe and Davidson is going to take care of him over a dumbass jerk in the first row.

I didn't realize that JWWashburn was a scab. That explains alot of his posts.
It's nice that the moderators allow personal attacks of members on the forum.

I am not sure what you mean by the term scab, realistic. Furthermore, it has nothing to do with the discussion of Davidson booting a fan.
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Old Fri Sep 10, 2010, 05:41pm
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I am not sure what you mean by the term scab.
Don't try and play the "I don't know card". You have gone on record in the past defending the scab umpires that crossed the picket lines during the MiLB strike a few years ago. You've also made mention that it was the unions that caused the collapse of the auto making industry in Detroit, which isn't even remotely true.

It would seem to me you are very anti-union and think "scabbing" is perfectly alright in your book. You must be a very far to right conservative Republican to make these outlandish statements.

FWIW, I don't think Davidson has the authority to really have someone removed from the stadium. However, that doesn't give the fan the right to make a public nuisance of themselves. I'm sure stadium police and security had the final say whether said fan is removed or not. Davidson only did what by pointing the fan out, the many others around the guy would have probably done later.
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