No thread about Bob Davidson ejecting a fan?

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

Since we know that Davidson is a buffoon, isn't it barely possible that the only way that this fan was "interfering with the game" was the fact that Davidson got tired of hearing him? Davidson does not get to decide who can say what in the stands. Crowd managment is not his job.

Why is it ok for him to yell whatever foul and vile language he wants to yell in the earshot of fans? I have no idea if this fan yelled anything or not. If he did yell a supposed slur toward the homosexulas, then the stadium people probably should have dealt with it. If they did not, it is none of Davidson's business.

A lot more people are offended by the language that Davidson an many fans use than would be offended by the use of this supposed slur(if it is the f word that ends in a t, homosexuals use it all the time) Woul Davidson boot a fan for yelling Jesus Christ or God-D***? no way, no how...that stuff does not personally bother him, obviously.

I have been close enough to hear his vulgararity laced tirades at least four times over the years-he is a joke of an umpire and a disgusting person. For him to eject a guy for yelling f****t is like Ted Kennedy telling a guy not to slap his girlfriend.

Is drinking involved in the writing of the words in your post? If not, then there's no excuse.

You go ahead and allow fans to yell slurs to players at your games, and the civilized umpire fraternity will not.

A lot of people cuss, and NEVER make a racial or personal slur of any kind, nor make blasphemous comments. Profanity and blasphemy and cruel bigotry are exclusive of each other. Perhaps Davidson is deep enough to discern the difference.

Try harder.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Is drinking involved in the writing of the words in your post? If not, then there's no excuse.

You go ahead and allow fans to yell slurs to players at your games, and the civilized umpire fraternity will not.

A lot of people cuss, and NEVER make a racial or personal slur of any kind, nor make blasphemous comments. Profanity and blasphemy and cruel bigotry are exclusive of each other. Perhaps Davidson is deep enough to discern the difference.

Try harder.

Well, Kevin, we are not major league umpires. The highest level I ever worked was a few Minor League gamjes as a fill in many years ago. I worked some small college but the vast majority of what I have worked has been HS and below. The standards at a HS game are far different than at a major Lague game. First of all, I would hear someone being vulgar or profane and I would dump him.

Davidson wanted a show. If it was that important to dump this supposed roudy fan who supposedly was vulgar, then he could have handled it many ways...all of them except the one he used would not have drawn attention to himself. He wanted to draw attention to himself. Between innings instead of spreading his feathers like a peacock, he could have asked a cop in or by the dugout to dump the guy...he would not have had to point, even. This was all about Boorish Bob. He is a hack. I was actually with two umpire friends when we heard sbout this on the radio and we all knew it was this loser that had done it.

So, for those that back Davidosn on this-What should happen the next time ol' Bob lets loose on one of his vulgarity laced tirades?

[jwwashburn]

@ HokieUmp: I'm curious, though: you have your reasons/examples for thinking Bob Davidson's a joke, and your own that. But why, when I read your postings, do I get the feeling that you're giving WAY more respect to stadium security 'guards' than umpires? (Or, at least, the MLB guys you don't like?)

I have no idea what the fan said. It might have been what Davidson said it was and it might not. If it is what the report was, then I think the Secuirty/cops should have removed him. The security guards and police might have done a good/decent or terrible job. A lot of times they do an awful job. My point is that it is none of Davidson's business what a fan is saying-this was not a high School game. There people there whose job it is to take care of this.

What about a fight in the stands? I think they almost always kick those folks out, right? what if they did not eject someone? Should Bob order that person gone, also?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I have no idea what the fan said. It might have been what Davidson said it was and it might not.

Why not just come out and call him a liar and be done with it?

[jwwashburn]

If the guy said it, you would think someone else would have heard it other than the guy with a mouth so foul that George Carlin once told him to cool it.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

If the guy said it, you would think someone else would have heard it other than the guy with a mouth so foul that George Carlin once told him to cool it.

So you are saying he is a liar then?

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Welpe

So you are saying he is a liar then?

I said I have no idea what the guy said. How could I call Davidson a liar if I have no idea what the guy said?

[HokieUmp]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I have no idea what the fan said. It might have been what Davidson said it was and it might not. If it is what the report was, then I think the Secuirty/cops should have removed him. The security guards and police might have done a good/decent or terrible job. A lot of times they do an awful job. My point is that it is none of Davidson's business what a fan is saying-this was not a high School game. There people there whose job it is to take care of this.

From the other reports I've read, Molina was ready to go all Ron Artest/Ty Cobb on that dude's a$$; on that rationale, Davidson has a dog in that hunt. Since you're all over him about this, I can only imagine your reaction if Molina had gone off: "Davidson's a joke - he can't keep control of the field and players!" Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

What about a fight in the stands? I think they almost always kick those folks out, right? what if they did not eject someone? Should Bob order that person gone, also?

Apples v Oranges.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by HokieUmp

From the other reports I've read, Molina was ready to go all Ron Artest/Ty Cobb on that dude's a$$;

How is he going to do that from the other side of the backstop?

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by HokieUmp
From the other reports I've read, Molina was ready to go all Ron Artest/Ty Cobb on that dude's a$$;

Originally Posted by LMan

How is he going to do that from the other side of the backstop?

Excellent question.

So, Davidson is supposed to stick his nose where it belongs because Molina was about to commit a felony? That makes no sense. He never could have gotten to him and would have stopped had he tried. If some millionaire cannot take a moron yelling at him, that is his problem...not the umpire.

[APG]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

If some millionaire cannot take a moron yelling at him, that is his problem...not the umpire.

Millions or not, every person has a breaking point. Having a lot of money doesn't make one immune.

I also find it interesting how this would be received much differently in another sport. I'm mainly speaking of basketball since in football, there's usually a buffer zone between the fans and the players/officials.

If this was done in an NBA game, then this would be a footnote in the game notes. In fact, this happened in a regular season game this past year in Portland where a couple was ejected from the game. Now I don't know the procedure for MLB. I feel the powers that be would have a hard time punishing Bob Davidson for being proactive here where game management wasn't. They'd rather have a few people make a fuss about an umpire taking care of business rather than one of their players going into the stands to take care of business.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

Well, Kevin, we are not major league umpires. The highest level I ever worked was a few Minor League gamjes as a fill in many years ago. I worked some small college but the vast majority of what I have worked has been HS and below. The standards at a HS game are far different than at a major Lague game. First of all, I would hear someone being vulgar or profane and I would dump him.

Davidson wanted a show. If it was that important to dump this supposed roudy fan who supposedly was vulgar, then he could have handled it many ways...all of them except the one he used would not have drawn attention to himself. He wanted to draw attention to himself. Between innings instead of spreading his feathers like a peacock, he could have asked a cop in or by the dugout to dump the guy...he would not have had to point, even. This was all about Boorish Bob. He is a hack. I was actually with two umpire friends when we heard sbout this on the radio and we all knew it was this loser that had done it.

So, for those that back Davidosn on this-What should happen the next time ol' Bob lets loose on one of his vulgarity laced tirades?

He was going to do it between innings, but it threatened to get out of hand, so, like a man with a set of stones, he acted, so a man with a set of clubs wouldn't.

As you stated, you believe all swearing is the same, and everything Davidson does is objectionable. That reeks of bias, and puritanism, so with your inability to be unbiased, and your inability to digest adult language, perhaps baseball isn't the right game for you.

You are obviously giving this a cursory and narrow look. Try harder.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

He was going to do it between innings, but it threatened to get out of hand, so, like a man with a set of stones, he acted, so a man with a set of clubs wouldn't.

As you stated, you believe all swearing is the same, and everything Davidson does is objectionable. That reeks of bias, and puritanism, so with your inability to be unbiased, and your inability to digest adult language, perhaps baseball isn't the right game for you.

You are obviously giving this a cursory and narrow look. Try harder.

It threatened to get out of hand? What a load of crap. Davidson was really worried that Molina was going to commit a felony because some guy was yelling at him? That is beyond stupid. Davidson likes for people to notice him. That is why he goes out of his way to be noticed. He is one of the least respected umpires by players, managers, coaches and other umpires because he is such a joke. He does things that no other umpire does like his incessant balk calling. I have seen several times in the last few years where he did not even bother to shave before a game.

I think the fan should have been ejected if he was actually saying that stuff. I would be awfully surprised if it was really that bad because I think someone would have turned him in.

I never stated that all swearing is the same. I stated that I have heard Davidson in person on numerous occasions using language that is remarkably offensive to an awful lot of people. For this he has gotten no sanction whatsoever.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I think the fan should have been ejected if he was actually saying that stuff. I would be awfully surprised if it was really that bad because I think someone would have turned him in.

Hmmm....isn't that what Davidson did?

JJ

[Adam]

Question: If Davidson acted beyond his authority, wouldn't MLB discipline him somehow? If they don't discipline him, wouldn't that mean it is within his authority?

I work HS hoops, and he wouldn't have made it though my game either. Buying a ticket doesn't give someone a license to be a jerk; and being a millionaire doesn't mean a player should have to deal with that BS from a drunk fan who obviously still has no clue what's appropriate and what isn't.