How would you address this with your partner?

[dash_riprock]

Sometimes you have to let it be.

Tonight I was PU, 1 out, R1, R2, batter lines one up the middle. F6 gloves it running toward 2B, opens his glove, plays the bounce, then tags the runner then the base. My partner has 2. I was sure it was an intentional drop but my partner was right in front of it. There is no way he could not have seen it and formulated his own opinion. I'm not stepping on that call. If he wants my help I will give it to him but not until then.

[JaxRolo]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Sometimes you have to let it be.

Tonight I was PU, 1 out, R1, R2, batter lines one up the middle. F6 gloves it running toward 2B, opens his glove, plays the bounce, then tags the runner then the base. My partner has 2. I was sure it was an intentional drop but my partner was right in front of it. There is no way he could not have seen it and formulated his own opinion. I'm not stepping on that call. If he wants my help I will give it to him but not until then.

Pardon my ignorance but a line drive is not an IFF so is there something wrong in dropping it intentionally?

[UmpJM]

Jax,

6.05 A batter is out when—

(l) An infielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and third, or first, second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball is dead and runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases;

APPROVED RULING: In this situation, the batter is not out if the infielder permits the ball to drop untouched to the ground, except when the Infield Fly rule applies.

JM

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

Pardon my ignorance but a line drive is not an IFF so is there something wrong in dropping it intentionally?

Yes. The ball is dead, the batter is out and runners return.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Yes. The ball is dead, the batter is out and runners return.

The ball must fall untouched.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

The ball must fall untouched.

Am I reading the APPROVED RULING incorrectly, or are you?

[kylejt]

I thought it was a line drive, not a fly ball. A fly ball is one that's hit high in the air.

Either way, the BU can use his judgment on that one all day long.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by yawetag

Am I reading the APPROVED RULING incorrectly, or are you?

I don't know....what I read. All I know is that you should probably call intentional drop unless the ball falls untouched and we don't have IFF...in the case of a line drive...it would be tough to turn a cheap double play w/o intentional drop.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

The ball must fall untouched.

Not true. If it falls untoouched, then it's live and play-on. If it's touched, then the ruling applies.

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

Pardon my ignorance but a line drive is not an IFF so is there something wrong in dropping it intentionally?

Pardon my asking, but how long have you been umpiring?

[UmpJM]

Bob,

From a recent post of his on another thread:

... I have been doing this less than a year. ...

JM

[JaxRolo]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Pardon my asking, but how long have you been umpiring?

I'm only asking so that I know what to do when it happens to me. Its a thing called "learning"

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

I'm only asking so that I know what to do when it happens to me. Its a thing called "learning"

I understand. That's why I asked a serious question. JM gave me the answer (that I assume is correct).

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

I'm only asking so that I know what to do when it happens to me. Its a thing called "learning"

No need to be a smart@$$ - he said, "Pardon my asking" --- how much nicer a way did you want him to ask that? Sheesh.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not true. If it falls untoouched, then it's live and play-on. If it's touched, then the ruling applies.

I was speaking to how it would NOT be an intentional drop...and "live ball, play on" type of scenario.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

Pardon my ignorance but a line drive is not an IFF so is there something wrong in dropping it intentionally?

As you will have noticed, the intentional drop rule is not restricted to fly balls.