How would you address this with your partner?

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Yes. The ball is dead, the batter is out and runners return.

The ball must fall untouched.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

The ball must fall untouched.

Am I reading the APPROVED RULING incorrectly, or are you?

[kylejt]

I thought it was a line drive, not a fly ball. A fly ball is one that's hit high in the air.

Either way, the BU can use his judgment on that one all day long.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

The ball must fall untouched.

Not true. If it falls untoouched, then it's live and play-on. If it's touched, then the ruling applies.

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

Pardon my ignorance but a line drive is not an IFF so is there something wrong in dropping it intentionally?

Pardon my asking, but how long have you been umpiring?

[UmpJM]

Bob,

From a recent post of his on another thread:

... I have been doing this less than a year. ...

JM

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by yawetag

Am I reading the APPROVED RULING incorrectly, or are you?

I don't know....what I read. All I know is that you should probably call intentional drop unless the ball falls untouched and we don't have IFF...in the case of a line drive...it would be tough to turn a cheap double play w/o intentional drop.

[JaxRolo]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Pardon my asking, but how long have you been umpiring?

I'm only asking so that I know what to do when it happens to me. Its a thing called "learning"

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

I'm only asking so that I know what to do when it happens to me. Its a thing called "learning"

I understand. That's why I asked a serious question. JM gave me the answer (that I assume is correct).

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

Pardon my ignorance but a line drive is not an IFF so is there something wrong in dropping it intentionally?

As you will have noticed, the intentional drop rule is not restricted to fly balls.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

F6 gloves it running toward 2B, opens his glove, plays the bounce, then tags the runner then the base.

Um - even as YOU describe this, it is not an intentional drop. LETTING it bounce is not an intentional drop. Letting it hit your glove and failing to catch it -- THAT is an intentional drop.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

I'm only asking so that I know what to do when it happens to me. Its a thing called "learning"

No need to be a smart@$$ - he said, "Pardon my asking" --- how much nicer a way did you want him to ask that? Sheesh.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Um - even as YOU describe this, it is not an intentional drop. LETTING it bounce is not an intentional drop. Letting it hit your glove and failing to catch it -- THAT is an intentional drop.

I think you're mis-reading it. He said that F6 "gloves it" then "opens the glove and plays the bounce"

[jicecone]

Depending upon what really happened and who is my partner, 99.9% of the time I would handle this after the game.

**I leave that .1% to a Baseball official I knew that felt as though he had to step on everyone's call just about all the time. I just verbally blasted him in front of both teams one time, and it never happened again in our games. Sometimes you just have to do, what you have to do, to get the point across.

**(Not the recommended solution)

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not true. If it falls untoouched, then it's live and play-on. If it's touched, then the ruling applies.

I was speaking to how it would NOT be an intentional drop...and "live ball, play on" type of scenario.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think you're mis-reading it. He said that F6 "gloves it" then "opens the glove and plays the bounce"

I can see reading it that way. It was the "plays the bounce" part. Guess we need clarification.