Asking for Help - Page 4

Rich · #46 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 12:15pm

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Originally Posted by kylejt

Re 5.: Trust me, I'm pretty up on how things go on the 60' field.

Two man mechanics, on a LL field, require the BU to be behind the shortstop in a lot of situations. Bullets hit to F6 sometimes get the BU caught behind him, with no time to get an angle.

I don't buy this. I always have time to take a step or two towards third to get an angle on the heel.

GA Umpire · #47 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 12:56pm

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Originally Posted by kylejt

Hey, don't argue with Mr. Umpire. After all, he's, well, Mr. Umpire.

Have an issue with anonymous user names? Wouldn't be the same Kyle_ from eteamz, would it?

Oh, and this one is MrUmpire. Not, Mr Umpire or mr umpire or even, Mr_Umpire from other sites. I think you have him mixed up with someone else.

Kevin Finnerty · #48 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 12:58pm

And how many steps do you take to get an angle on a swipe tag with the runner between you and the actual tag?

I mean, to get the call right.

kylejt · #49 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 01:16pm

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Originally Posted by GA Umpire

Have an issue with anonymous user names? Wouldn't be the same Kyle_ from eteamz, would it?

Oh, and this one is MrUmpire. Not, Mr Umpire or mr umpire or even, Mr_Umpire from other sites. I think you have him mixed up with someone else.

I've been on Al Gore's Internet since it's inception. Back when it was just a few of us linked up to Berkeley, and few other locations. One thing I can tell is that nobody is anonymous out there. That's why I just use my name. And yeah, I'm the same screwball that's on eteamz.

I just find using the handle "Mr. Umpire" on an umpire site funny, that's all.

kylejt · #50 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 01:22pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN

I don't buy this. I always have time to take a step or two towards third to get an angle on the heel.

And I don't doubt that. Heck, I haven't been hit on my plate shoes in a couple of years either. Doesn't mean it can't happen.

But I've had times where I've been to the left of the shortstop, and had a scorching one hopper hit right between us. He goes left, and I can't go right, because he might miss it. It happens. You just do your best out there.

Kevin Finnerty · #51 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 01:28pm

There's this professional comedian (big name, but not huge), who plays catcher in a local MSBL Sunday league. He's as serious a player as there is, and doesn't really come out with much humor during the games. But his trademark is that he unfailingly addresses me (and the others) as "Mr. Umpire." ("Where was that, Mr. Umpire?" ... "Thank you, Mr. Umpire." ... "Good game, Mr. Umpire.")

It sounds funny even there.

MrUmpire · #52 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 01:51pm

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Originally Posted by kylejt

Re 5.: Trust me, I'm pretty up on how things go on the 60' field.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was not referring to the 60' field.

MrUmpire · #53 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 01:53pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN

I don't buy this. I always have time to take a step or two towards third to get an angle on the heel.

Exactly.

kylejt · #54 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 01:56pm

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Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was not referring to the 60' field.

No worries. Calls are MUCH easier on the inside of the diamond, and it's quite rare to need help from there. Maybe on a swipe tag every four or five years.

MrUmpire · #55 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 01:57pm

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Originally Posted by GA Umpire

Have an issue with anonymous user names? Wouldn't be the same Kyle_ from eteamz, would it?

Oh, and this one is MrUmpire. Not, Mr Umpire or mr umpire or even, Mr_Umpire from other sites. I think you have him mixed up with someone else.

Thank you. I don't post on any other site. and "Mr Umpire" is a very common and polite reference to umpires in my area and is preferred by most umpires over "blue".

As far as being anonymous: Some know me. I've been around long enough and have, from time to time, used my real name in posts.

johnnyg08 · #56 (**permalink**) Fri Apr 16, 2010, 06:52pm

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Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Thank you. I don't post on any other site. and "Mr Umpire" is a very common and polite reference to umpires in my area and is preferred by most umpires over "blue".

As far as being anonymous: Those who matter know me. I've been around long enough and have, from time to time, used my real name in posts.

I don't particularly like being called Mr. Umpire or Blue, but that's just me...if they're going to put in the work to call me, I'd prefer they simply use my first name. I know others prefer something else...but I strongly dislike Blue and Mr. Umpire...seems, well, rather impersonal.

constable · #57 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 18, 2010, 02:53pm

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Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Spence,

Good question.

That's why I put all the "ands" in. Most of the time a coach asks me if I would get help, I just tell him, "No, Bob, I saw everything I needed to."

But every now and then you get straightlined or your vision gets obstructed and you make a call. You can tell by the reaction of the team that benefited that you DID "kick it". Your partner is trying to make eye contact and keeps taking his hat off. The coach asks for time, and politely and without insulting you asks if you would mind checking with your partner.

Sometimes it's the right thing to do.

Oh, and on a check swing appeal request, I ALWAYS go to my partner.

JM

That's good because according to ORB, you have too.

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Rule 9.02(c) Comment: The manager or the catcher may request the plate umpire to ask his partner
for help on a half swing when the plate umpire calls the pitch a ball, but not when the pitch is called a
strike. The manager may not complain that the umpire made an improper call, but only that he did not
ask his partner for help. Field umpires must be alerted to the request from the plate umpire and quickly
respond. Managers may not protest the call of a ball or strike on the pretense they are asking for
information about a half swing.
Appeals on a half swing may be made only on the call of ball and when asked to appeal, the home
plate umpire must refer to a base umpire for his judgment on the half swing. Should the base umpire call
the pitch a strike, the strike call shall prevail.

kylejt · #58 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 18, 2010, 04:24pm

If a manager calls me Blue, Mr. Umpire, ( do like Your Majesty, though) or any other standard moniker, it just means they didn't bother to remember my name at the plate meeting. If they use "Hey Kyle,....", it meant they were paying attention, and my plate meeting wasn't a waste of time. To me, it means something.

mbyron · #59 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 18, 2010, 04:27pm

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Originally Posted by constable

That's good because according to ORB, you have too.

I suppose you mean OBR. In FED there's no such requirement, so it's saying something when JM announces that he always checks.

JRutledge · #60 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 18, 2010, 05:36pm

I am old school with a new school feel. I cannot stand the "get it right at all cost" philosophy. It drives me crazy that umpires every situation feel they need to ask for help. No other sport spends that much time trying to get help on every situation. For one we are not always looking at the same thing and we should not be looking at the same time. And I am with Rich, I hate umpires that cannot refuse a request for "help" from a coach. When it is not appropriate or I know my partner cannot help, I am not asking for help. And yes I have refused requests for checked swings when it is obvious there was no such call that needs to be made. But then again I do not do what the pack does and some reason I have been fine most of my career. We worry way too much about what coaches think when they clearly have an agenda.

Peace