Asking for Help

[MrUmpire]

1. Getting help before making a call in not a mechanic I've seen taught anywhere. There has to be a call made before an "appeal" for help.

2. A study was posted on this site a few years back that indicated that video replays showed when ML umpires got help on a call, the revised call was wrong as often as right, thus overturning a correct call.

3. On most plays there should not be two sets of eyes on the same play.

4. Going to your partner assumes he had a better view despite his distance and other reponsibilities.

5. Study mechanics and angles and increase your mobility and you won't need to get help at first.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

1. Getting help before making a call in not a mechanic I've seen taught anywhere. There has to be a call made before an "appeal" for help.

2. A study was posted on this site a few years back that indicated that video replays showed when ML umpires got help on a call, the revised call was wrong as often as right, thus overturning a correct call.

3. On most plays there should not be two sets of eyes on the same play.

4. Going to your partner assumes he had a better view despite his distance and other reponsibilities.

5. Study mechanics and angles and increase your mobility and you won't need to get help at first.

Unless, in some rare instances, you want to get the call correct, rather than further this illusion that you are imperious and irreproachable.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

1. Getting help before making a call in not a mechanic I've seen taught anywhere. There has to be a call made before an "appeal" for help.

2. A study was posted on this site a few years back that indicated that video replays showed when ML umpires got help on a call, the revised call was wrong as often as right, thus overturning a correct call.

3. On most plays there should not be two sets of eyes on the same play.

4. Going to your partner assumes he had a better view despite his distance and other reponsibilities.

5. Study mechanics and angles and increase your mobility and you won't need to get help at first.

Re 5.: Trust me, I'm pretty up on how things go on the 60' field.

Two man mechanics, on a LL field, require the BU to be behind the shortstop in a lot of situations. Bullets hit to F6 sometimes get the BU caught behind him, with no time to get an angle. A good PU will look down the line for a pulled foot when the BU is in C, on the little field. And yeah. the PU has a much better view of a heal being off the bag, than a guy in the grass behind the shortstop.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Re 5.: Trust me, I'm pretty up on how things go on the 60' field.

Two man mechanics, on a LL field, require the BU to be behind the shortstop in a lot of situations. Bullets hit to F6 sometimes get the BU caught behind him, with no time to get an angle.

I don't buy this. I always have time to take a step or two towards third to get an angle on the heel.

[Kevin Finnerty]

And how many steps do you take to get an angle on a swipe tag with the runner between you and the actual tag?

I mean, to get the call right.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I don't buy this. I always have time to take a step or two towards third to get an angle on the heel.

And I don't doubt that. Heck, I haven't been hit on my plate shoes in a couple of years either. Doesn't mean it can't happen.

But I've had times where I've been to the left of the shortstop, and had a scorching one hopper hit right between us. He goes left, and I can't go right, because he might miss it. It happens. You just do your best out there.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I don't buy this. I always have time to take a step or two towards third to get an angle on the heel.

Exactly.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Re 5.: Trust me, I'm pretty up on how things go on the 60' field.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was not referring to the 60' field.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was not referring to the 60' field.

No worries. Calls are MUCH easier on the inside of the diamond, and it's quite rare to need help from there. Maybe on a swipe tag every four or five years.