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jeschmit Tue Mar 30, 2010 09:10am

Error Scoring Question
 
My mom is the head softball coach at the local high school, and she sent me this the email the other day. It is whether or not the run should be scored as earned or unearned. If anyone could help me out with giving her an answer back I would greatly appreciate it.

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I have a question about an error.
In our game on Friday. Taylor was pitching - in the inning they scored their lone run -- this is what happened. My question is, should there be an error and/or earned or unearned run. We ended up winning the game, but the scoring was as an error on the 3rd baseman and an unearned run -- not sure I agree since the runner didn't advance.

Batter 1 on the inning -- Strike out (1 out)
Batter 2 on the inning -- walk (1 out, 1 on first)
Batter 3 on the inning -- base hit - advances runner to 2nd (1 out, 2 runners on --1st and 2nd)
Batter 4 on the inning -- walk (1 out, bases loaded)
Batter 5 on the inning -- Fly ball to SS - caught and then tried to double-up the runner on 3rd - first looked to 2nd base and then we were al yelling 3rd and she threw to 3rd and 3rd basemen dropped the ball - however no one advanced. Error?? If so - who? (2 outs, bases still loaded)
Batter 6 in the inning -- walk (run scores on the advancement of the walk - still 2 outs, bases loaded)
Batter 7 in the inning -- Strike out (3 outs)

Can you assume a double play and can you give an unearned run after a mis-hap double play that the runner didn't advance on??
Please shed what light you can on this. Obviously it is a big decision as far as the earned run and giving a player an error.
I appreciate your insight.
This is the email she sent me, so this is written in her words, not mine. So if anything is confusing, I'll have to ask her.

Rich Ives Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:22am

You cannot assume a DP.

No error.

Earned run.

Unless Taylor is old enough to be getting paid to play it really doesn't matter.

mbyron Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:42am

A. It's softball. Who knows?

B. It's scoring. Who cares?

Rich Ives Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:18pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 671611)
A. It's softball. Who knows?

?

Ask on a baseball board - get a baseball answer. :D

ozzy6900 Tue Mar 30, 2010 03:38pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 671611)
A. It's softball. Who knows?

B. It's scoring. Who cares?

Agreed!

JR12 Tue Mar 30, 2010 04:15pm

Can you post a pic of Mom?:D

ManInBlue Tue Mar 30, 2010 09:07pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 671585)
You cannot assume a DP.

No error.

Earned run.

Unless Taylor is old enough to be getting paid to play it really doesn't matter.


You'd still have to score the error on the throw, would you not?

Earned run on a walk, and on a runner who was walked?

Agreed. Unless Taylor is making big $$ based on her ERA, does it really make a difference.

Rich Ives Tue Mar 30, 2010 09:54pm

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Originally Posted by ManInBlue (Post 671752)
You'd still have to score the error on the throw, would you not?

Earned run on a walk, and on a runner who was walked?

Agreed. Unless Taylor is making big $$ based on her ERA, does it really make a difference.

No one advanced on the dropped ball on the DP attempt so no error.

I did say the run was earned.

Only one run scored.

ManInBlue Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:09pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 671764)
I did say the run was earned.

Yes you did. I guess I was asking for clarification. I didn't think a runner that reached on a walk , or that was walked in to score would be an earned run.

Rich Ives Wed Mar 31, 2010 07:16am

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Originally Posted by ManInBlue (Post 671772)
Yes you did. I guess I was asking for clarification. I didn't think a runner that reached on a walk , or that was walked in to score would be an earned run.

If it's the pitcher's fault that the runnner's on base then (before 3 outs) it's an earned run. Walks are certainly the pitcher's fault.

jdmara Wed Mar 31, 2010 08:43am

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Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 671561)
My mom is the head softball coach at the local high school, and she sent me this the email the other day. It is whether or not the run should be scored as earned or unearned. If anyone could help me out with giving her an answer back I would greatly appreciate it.



This is the email she sent me, so this is written in her words, not mine. So if anything is confusing, I'll have to ask her.

Could consider it unearned by I doubt most would consider it so. It would have to be a horrible throw and the runner obviously out for me to consider it an unearned run

-Josh


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